Ticket question
That's the thing, I wasn't in the wrong at all. My and my buddies were leaving a car meet right after a bunch of retards got back from street racing. The cop saw me leaving, and since I drive the world famous cowl hooded Civic with a massive exhaust, I'm sure he thought I had been racing. When I noticed him (he was probably 7 cars back) I immediately let off the gas, and by the time he got on my ass I was doing about 44 (via my speedo and my GPS). He pulled me over and asked if I had been driving southbound on such and such road, and I told him no. he asked me 3 more times if I had been driving on that road, I looked him square in the eyes and told him I hadn't. He then asked me if I knew why he pulled me over, I said no, he said he paced me doing 60 in a 45, and he asked me why i was going that fast. I told him i wasn't going that fast (politely), and he came back with this ticket.
He wrote it as a violation of a speed limit sign, which means he needs to prove I was speeding, and the law says he has to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that I was going a certain speed, not that i was speeding (which is unconstitutionaly vauge), but that I was going a certain speed. His radar was off, and DB PD doesn't use laser. So he has to prove I was going 60, and he has to prove that the equipment he did it with (his speedometer) has been calibrated correctly.
He wrote it as a violation of a speed limit sign, which means he needs to prove I was speeding, and the law says he has to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that I was going a certain speed, not that i was speeding (which is unconstitutionaly vauge), but that I was going a certain speed. His radar was off, and DB PD doesn't use laser. So he has to prove I was going 60, and he has to prove that the equipment he did it with (his speedometer) has been calibrated correctly.
something doesn't sound right. A speed sign as far as i know is not a traffic control device per say. A traffic control device is something that manages the traffic, like a stop sign or a red light, ETC....
i dunno man id look into it or call a traffic lawyer to be certain. Most traffic lawyers will give a free or cheap 1st consultation. You may want to look into that.
i dunno man id look into it or call a traffic lawyer to be certain. Most traffic lawyers will give a free or cheap 1st consultation. You may want to look into that.
Idk man, i had the same shit happend to me, and i got away with it, cause he had no proof of speed. Thats all i can tell you. Goodluck
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Pacing simply means that the officer followed you with another vehicle, attempting to maintain a constant distance and referring to his speedometer to gauge your speed. In this case, the calibration of the police car is critical to your defense. The defense strategies that we outlined earlier may not all apply since the officer does not have to be specifically trained in reading a speedometer, and it is unlikely he was following the wrong vehicle. Your best bet is that the officer does not appear in court and that the prosecution fails to prove all the points in the specific section of the vehicle code. Review the cross examination sections that we have discussed earlier and also the radar ticket cross examinations. These questions should get your thinking on the right track in order to prepare the questions for the motor pacing case. Some of the more important items for you to remember are the following:
Make sure the officer is giving recollection of the incident and not reading directly from the back of the citation.
Make sure that the officer testifies that the unit was calibrated at a certain date, and that the calibration certificate is present in court. Also, the qualifications of the technician that calibrated the unit should be available. Review the officers testimony carefully and also the prosecutors line of questioning. If they leave out any of the points covered in the vehicle code, you have grounds for motion to dismiss. Don't expect that this will automatically happen, because the judge may allow the prosecution to reopen their case if they do omit something. Ask the officer a series of questions concerning the other traffic on the road. Ask him if during the time he was pacing you, he passed any other vehicles. If not, that would indicate that you were traveling at the same speed as the other vehicles at that time of day on that section of road.
Ask the officer as to the exact distances covered from the time the officer began to pace the speed of your vehicle until you were stopped. You would also want to know the estimated distance between the two vehicles at all times. Review the math and see if the officer actually had to speed up in order to close the distance between your vehicles before he pulled you over. It's possible he could have used the accelerated speed and used that speed as the basis for the ticket.
Make sure the officer is giving recollection of the incident and not reading directly from the back of the citation.
Make sure that the officer testifies that the unit was calibrated at a certain date, and that the calibration certificate is present in court. Also, the qualifications of the technician that calibrated the unit should be available. Review the officers testimony carefully and also the prosecutors line of questioning. If they leave out any of the points covered in the vehicle code, you have grounds for motion to dismiss. Don't expect that this will automatically happen, because the judge may allow the prosecution to reopen their case if they do omit something. Ask the officer a series of questions concerning the other traffic on the road. Ask him if during the time he was pacing you, he passed any other vehicles. If not, that would indicate that you were traveling at the same speed as the other vehicles at that time of day on that section of road.
Ask the officer as to the exact distances covered from the time the officer began to pace the speed of your vehicle until you were stopped. You would also want to know the estimated distance between the two vehicles at all times. Review the math and see if the officer actually had to speed up in order to close the distance between your vehicles before he pulled you over. It's possible he could have used the accelerated speed and used that speed as the basis for the ticket.
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something doesn't sound right. A speed sign as far as i know is not a traffic control device per say. A traffic control device is something that manages the traffic, like a stop sign or a red light, ETC....
i dunno man id look into it or call a traffic lawyer to be certain. Most traffic lawyers will give a free or cheap 1st consultation. You may want to look into that.
i dunno man id look into it or call a traffic lawyer to be certain. Most traffic lawyers will give a free or cheap 1st consultation. You may want to look into that.
Yes the sign is a TCD. I got a warning and was threatened with this ticket on the Bayside bridge. I ran up on a undercover at a $1.50, seen him at the last second and slowed to his speed by about 3 cars back. He seen ho fast i was going, but had no way to prove it really so he just gave me a warning as i guess the tickets would have been kinda pointless.
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yeah take it to court, and it will be your word against his, guess who the judge is going to believe?
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its not my word against his, its him needing to prove his equipment is accurate and me motioning for dismissal when he fails to do so. Yay legal system.
Does he work in the Daytona Beach area?



