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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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Porsche accuses Nissan GT-R of cheating the 'Ring - Autoblog


Sour grapes or legitimate complaint? That's the question we're left pondering after reading that Porsche believes Nissan must have cheated to record its 7:29:03 lap time of the famed Nürburgring race circuit. Porsche claims that it had been suspicious of the Nissan's lap times, so it acquired a U.S.-spec GT-R for testing back-to-back with its own 911 Turbo and GT2. The result? The mighty Godzilla was toppled by the Teutonic German duo, with the GT-R posting times a good 25-seconds slower than Nissan's claim.

How can Porsche explain the discrepancy? "This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car. For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tires," says August Achleitner, the man in charge of the 911 program. There is footage of the GT-R lapping the 'Ring at high speed, but it's taken from inside the car where the tires cannot be seen.

Considering the fact that Nissan saw fit to issue a press release commemorating the car's fast-lap, we doubt this is something that will be taken lightly. There's a big can 'o worms here, and Porsche's in the corner holding the opener.
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Here we go...
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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Nissan did their record lap on a wet track as well didn't they?

Epic fail on the part of Nissan.
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Driver mod maybe???
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So the GT-R is now slower than the 911 turbo in which every track test proves otherwise?
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Originally Posted by Thatguysstuff
Driver mod maybe???

Porsche ran all three cars on the ring within 2 hours of eachother. With the same driver in each, one of their chassis engineers who is an expert on the Ring. It makes sense, the GTR has similar power to the Porsche Turbo, but weighs a bit more, it shouldn't be faster around a track.

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So the GT-R is now slower than the 911 turbo in which every track test proves otherwise?
What?
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It says the car was "taken down" by the other two porsches. So I was in the mind that it was saying the 997 turbo is again faster than a GT-R. Every article I've read about track testing the GT-R against a 997 turbo the GT-R is faster thats all. Anyways I dont see how the car can be 25 seconds slower but the Ring is a long track so who knows. Who did they have driving the GT-R a 13 mile track with a driver that isnt as good as the original would easily loose that much time on a track that long.

Dont really care much since I dont own one.
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Originally Posted by longfellow2
It says the car was "taken down" by the other two porsches. So I was in the mind that it was saying the 997 turbo is again faster than a GT-R. Every article I've read about track testing the GT-R against a 997 turbo the GT-R is faster thats all. Anyways I dont see how the car can be 25 seconds slower but the Ring is a long track so who knows. Who did they have driving the GT-R a 13 mile track with a driver that isnt as good as the original would easily loose that much time on a track that long.

Dont really care much since I dont own one.
Do you really think Porsche didn't put the absolute best driver they could get ahold of into the car? They actually chose the driver over their usualy test driver, because he knew the ring much better than the ex-world champion.
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