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...If you go to Gandy or CCC on Saturday nights, you're part of 'the problem,' and you're asking for trouble.
You are also asking for trouble when you pull out of QSL or any other event that you pull out of. So is that going to stop you from going to those?
There's plenty of kids out there that are just going to go there because it's the cool thing to do (defying the law, risking lives, misbehaving, showing off double digit horsepower = cool), and they may or may not learn in a couple years, but there's so many people that go out there, that I honestly expected better from. I've heard countless self-declared 'mature', 'smarter' people joke about going to Gandy or CCC to "laugh at the ricers," or "watch the idiots," etc. I've seen those exact quotes countless times on these boards, as well as many other snide remarks about people driving 20+ miles to pretend they're better than anyone else out there. It's definitive hipocrisy.
Then plain and simple. Stay away from them. It was said on another post, there is a different group in different parts of the causeway. I can also see idiots at the mall.[/quote]
That's where everyone goes to race on the streets, and open a 6-pack for a bunch of misguided teenagers. Even the most well-meaning car enthusiast has no place there, as it's certainly not a wholesome place, and even the safest driver could be the next victim of derailed street racing or a DUI partyer.
Before you start calling everyone a misguided teenager, look in the mirror. I'm sure you were just the perfect angel and never did anything wrong. You should have watched "Crossroads" on CBS last night. It was about a street racer here in Tampa that was racing on a private street, NOT the causeway, and killed a mother and daughter.
At least once a month there's mention of mayhem at one of the two ricefests, usually ended with complaints of the cops breaking it up. Truth is, the cops have every right to go there and jail at least 75% of the jackoffs there, and it's about time they do so. If you're complaining about how dumb everyone else there is, try to justify yourself as being any different than another aimless trouble-seeker adding to the mess.
You have a valid point there but it was also the 25% that were there to help those in need Saturday night. Everybody is so quick to judge on why people shouldn't have been there. In the last 48 hours I have only seen a hand full of people thank the ones that helped, but I'll be damned I've seen more than that bitch about them being out there. Now shut your pie hole and you better hope like hell that there is someone as brave and caring as those were Saturday night, to be there if you ever are in need.
And you are so wise in your 21 years of life.
I've been going out to CCC since most of you were in diapers. And its because of kids like you, spewing off at the mouth, that places like this get a bad name.
You are also asking for trouble when you pull out of QSL or any other event that you pull out of. So is that going to stop you from going to those?
There's plenty of kids out there that are just going to go there because it's the cool thing to do (defying the law, risking lives, misbehaving, showing off double digit horsepower = cool), and they may or may not learn in a couple years, but there's so many people that go out there, that I honestly expected better from. I've heard countless self-declared 'mature', 'smarter' people joke about going to Gandy or CCC to "laugh at the ricers," or "watch the idiots," etc. I've seen those exact quotes countless times on these boards, as well as many other snide remarks about people driving 20+ miles to pretend they're better than anyone else out there. It's definitive hipocrisy.
Then plain and simple. Stay away from them. It was said on another post, there is a different group in different parts of the causeway. I can also see idiots at the mall.[/quote]
That's where everyone goes to race on the streets, and open a 6-pack for a bunch of misguided teenagers. Even the most well-meaning car enthusiast has no place there, as it's certainly not a wholesome place, and even the safest driver could be the next victim of derailed street racing or a DUI partyer.
Before you start calling everyone a misguided teenager, look in the mirror. I'm sure you were just the perfect angel and never did anything wrong. You should have watched "Crossroads" on CBS last night. It was about a street racer here in Tampa that was racing on a private street, NOT the causeway, and killed a mother and daughter.
At least once a month there's mention of mayhem at one of the two ricefests, usually ended with complaints of the cops breaking it up. Truth is, the cops have every right to go there and jail at least 75% of the jackoffs there, and it's about time they do so. If you're complaining about how dumb everyone else there is, try to justify yourself as being any different than another aimless trouble-seeker adding to the mess.
You have a valid point there but it was also the 25% that were there to help those in need Saturday night. Everybody is so quick to judge on why people shouldn't have been there. In the last 48 hours I have only seen a hand full of people thank the ones that helped, but I'll be damned I've seen more than that bitch about them being out there. Now shut your pie hole and you better hope like hell that there is someone as brave and caring as those were Saturday night, to be there if you ever are in need.
And you are so wise in your 21 years of life.
I've been going out to CCC since most of you were in diapers. And its because of kids like you, spewing off at the mouth, that places like this get a bad name.
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yeah, them young whipper snapper's with double digit hp are the cause of all evil!!!!!! 
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...If you go to Gandy or CCC on Saturday nights, you're part of 'the problem,' and you're asking for trouble.
I honestly don't care what arguments anyone wants to pull up against me, or if anyone thinks I'm being insensitive (in light of recent events), but I see so many threads and news stories about shit that happens there, and it's a haven for hoodlums, brawlers, trouble makers, street racing, and drunk drivers. You're going to find these types almost anywhere you go, but why the hell so many of you (I know there's quite a few attendees on the forums) flock to a weekly clusterfuck of trouble brewing is beyond me.
There's plenty of kids out there that are just going to go there because it's the cool thing to do (defying the law, risking lives, misbehaving, showing off double digit horsepower = cool), and they may or may not learn in a couple years, but there's so many people that go out there, that I honestly expected better from. I've heard countless self-declared 'mature', 'smarter' people joke about going to Gandy or CCC to "laugh at the ricers," or "watch the idiots," etc. I've seen those exact quotes countless times on these boards, as well as many other snide remarks about people driving 20+ miles to pretend they're better than anyone else out there. It's definitive hipocrisy.
If you're heading to one of the weekly culdesacs of crime to watch the drama unfold, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Gawkers, criminals and showoffs only go there because so many other people like yourselves are there. Whether you're watching or participating, you're adding fuel to the fire. That's where everyone goes to race on the streets, and open a 6-pack for a bunch of misguided teenagers. Even the most well-meaning car enthusiast has no place there, as it's certainly not a wholesome place, and even the safest driver could be the next victim of derailed street racing or a DUI partyer.
At least once a month there's mention of mayhem at one of the two ricefests, usually ended with complaints of the cops breaking it up. Truth is, the cops have every right to go there and jail at least 75% of the jackoffs there, and it's about time they do so. If you're complaining about how dumb everyone else there is, try to justify yourself as being any different than another aimless trouble-seeker adding to the mess.
That's about it.
I honestly don't care what arguments anyone wants to pull up against me, or if anyone thinks I'm being insensitive (in light of recent events), but I see so many threads and news stories about shit that happens there, and it's a haven for hoodlums, brawlers, trouble makers, street racing, and drunk drivers. You're going to find these types almost anywhere you go, but why the hell so many of you (I know there's quite a few attendees on the forums) flock to a weekly clusterfuck of trouble brewing is beyond me.
There's plenty of kids out there that are just going to go there because it's the cool thing to do (defying the law, risking lives, misbehaving, showing off double digit horsepower = cool), and they may or may not learn in a couple years, but there's so many people that go out there, that I honestly expected better from. I've heard countless self-declared 'mature', 'smarter' people joke about going to Gandy or CCC to "laugh at the ricers," or "watch the idiots," etc. I've seen those exact quotes countless times on these boards, as well as many other snide remarks about people driving 20+ miles to pretend they're better than anyone else out there. It's definitive hipocrisy.
If you're heading to one of the weekly culdesacs of crime to watch the drama unfold, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. Gawkers, criminals and showoffs only go there because so many other people like yourselves are there. Whether you're watching or participating, you're adding fuel to the fire. That's where everyone goes to race on the streets, and open a 6-pack for a bunch of misguided teenagers. Even the most well-meaning car enthusiast has no place there, as it's certainly not a wholesome place, and even the safest driver could be the next victim of derailed street racing or a DUI partyer.
At least once a month there's mention of mayhem at one of the two ricefests, usually ended with complaints of the cops breaking it up. Truth is, the cops have every right to go there and jail at least 75% of the jackoffs there, and it's about time they do so. If you're complaining about how dumb everyone else there is, try to justify yourself as being any different than another aimless trouble-seeker adding to the mess.
That's about it.
You obviously didn't read/understand the thread or point Troux was trying to get across...
He's saying that if you stayed away from there in the first place, a lot of the "omg my friend was just killed due to gandy/CCC drifter/racer!" or "cops arrested me for nothing on gandy/CCC!" or "huge wreck on gandy/CCC!" threads won't show up.
You contribute to the problem in the following ways:
You want to hang out with your other car club buddies or whatever:
MEET SOMEWHERE ELSE. It doesn't even have to be in another county or 15 miles away, go down dale mabry for maybe 5 minutes... It'd help the situation tenfold.
Just make it a few of you guys, make sure that you have no scraggly little kids coming in and ruining your fun by doing burnouts or street racing with themselves.
I'm not going to lie, i've been there maybe twice a long time ago. Its not much better than just hanging with your crew elsewhere.
He's saying that if you stayed away from there in the first place, a lot of the "omg my friend was just killed due to gandy/CCC drifter/racer!" or "cops arrested me for nothing on gandy/CCC!" or "huge wreck on gandy/CCC!" threads won't show up.
You contribute to the problem in the following ways:
- You encourage more of the little ricer kids to keep doing what they're doing (Hey we got a crowd now!)
- By promoting it in the forums with "i was at gandy last night, omgz beer bottles all over the streets!" threads tell the younger members that its ok and fun to head out there
- You contribute to more of the clutter of cars and traffic heading there
- More, but i want to keep this short so you don't lose too much interest too fast.
- You come to one of these "events" and you get sideswiped by some retard going 120mph
- Your friend gets run over because someone's trying to drift on a straight road.
- You could potentially get pulled over/ticketed/arrested/fined/whatever and you come out with "i hate the po-po" threads
- More traffic = more possibility of someone getting hurt.
- More people start coming out, contributing to the problem
You want to hang out with your other car club buddies or whatever:
MEET SOMEWHERE ELSE. It doesn't even have to be in another county or 15 miles away, go down dale mabry for maybe 5 minutes... It'd help the situation tenfold.
Just make it a few of you guys, make sure that you have no scraggly little kids coming in and ruining your fun by doing burnouts or street racing with themselves.
I'm not going to lie, i've been there maybe twice a long time ago. Its not much better than just hanging with your crew elsewhere.
Couldnt agree more with both of u. I have never been to gandy,never will.well ive beento the Sonics thats it. I dont race on the street ever. Went to CCC one night with some fellow Supra owners. Troux i think u were there and i probally seen more stupidity out there than anything ive seen in the last 5 years
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You guys make it sound like Gandy and CCC are prison felon reunions. Is it really that bad? I haven't gone in years but I had been after the rice infestation and although I'm not into rice I couldn't say it was as bad as y'all make it sound.
Kids and motorheads have been gathering decades. I never saw much if any criminal activity (hot rodding not to be confused with "criminal"). Maybe it's changed in the past five years?
Kids and motorheads have been gathering decades. I never saw much if any criminal activity (hot rodding not to be confused with "criminal"). Maybe it's changed in the past five years?
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You guys make it sound like Gandy and CCC are prison felon reunions. Is it really that bad? I haven't gone in years but I had been after the rice infestation and although I'm not into rice I couldn't say it was as bad as y'all make it sound.
Kids and motorheads have been gathering decades. I never saw much if any criminal activity (hot rodding not to be confused with "criminal"). Maybe it's changed in the past five years?
Kids and motorheads have been gathering decades. I never saw much if any criminal activity (hot rodding not to be confused with "criminal"). Maybe it's changed in the past five years?
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ok, i just wrote a whole novel then had to erase it due to my teacher coming up...
ok, let me start with saying, yes, i am one of the younger guys on this site, but hay a good majority of people on here are my age
i agree with troux(sp) that yes if you are going out to CCC and gandy you are part of "A" problem... kinda... the problem is, i know many respected, muture, honorable people who also attend the mass of a car meet on saturday nights...
i myself go there about once every month or so becuase it is the largest gathering of fellow car enthusest(sp) and i wanna see and check out the local Import scene... if there was a better place to go every weekend i would...
the whole danger of having my car wrecked, or my life put in jepardy is why i dont go alot, but everyweeked i dont go i still wanna do something car related or socialize with others.... so...thats how i end up there...
so in my opinion "so that im not sitting on the fence" is your not a bad person if you go but we should work to try and create a better situation
ok, let me start with saying, yes, i am one of the younger guys on this site, but hay a good majority of people on here are my age
i agree with troux(sp) that yes if you are going out to CCC and gandy you are part of "A" problem... kinda... the problem is, i know many respected, muture, honorable people who also attend the mass of a car meet on saturday nights...
i myself go there about once every month or so becuase it is the largest gathering of fellow car enthusest(sp) and i wanna see and check out the local Import scene... if there was a better place to go every weekend i would...
the whole danger of having my car wrecked, or my life put in jepardy is why i dont go alot, but everyweeked i dont go i still wanna do something car related or socialize with others.... so...thats how i end up there...
so in my opinion "so that im not sitting on the fence" is your not a bad person if you go but we should work to try and create a better situation
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You being so against drunken driving should know how bad things can get when they start running around on the streets. I believe not too long ago some drunk ass girl rammed into the back of a firetruck? One time i was there some idiot in a camaro decided to piss the honda fucks up a bit and revved hard and loud as hell and left. One of the honda kids tried going after him, lost major traction and almost swiped around and headed into some other guy's car, luckily got traction again and tried burning out on the street to chase after him.... I dunno, I consider that a little dangerous?
plain and simple, from now on, NO FUCKTARDS AND RICERS ALLOWED!!!!!
we've been going out there since back in the early 80's and there's never been any problems until F&F came out and all the dumb fuck ricers suddenly came out!
oh, and also, going somewhere else isnt gonna solve any problems cause just as soon as the ricers find out where everyone's going, they're gonna screw that all up too!
it'll be the same problem just a diff place!
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You know, I might walk outside during a storm and get struck by lightning, but why would I increase my odds by holding up a golf club? Doesn't make sense, does it?
Then plain and simple. Stay away from them. It was said on another post, there is a different group in different parts of the causeway. I can also see idiots at the mall.
Before you start calling everyone a misguided teenager, look in the mirror. I'm sure you were just the perfect angel and never did anything wrong.
You should have watched "Crossroads" on CBS last night. It was about a street racer here in Tampa that was racing on a private street, NOT the causeway, and killed a mother and daughter.
Everybody is so quick to judge on why people shouldn't have been there. In the last 48 hours I have only seen a hand full of people thank the ones that helped, but I'll be damned I've seen more than that bitch about them being out there.
Now shut your pie hole and you better hope like hell that there is someone as brave and caring as those were Saturday night, to be there if you ever are in need.
And you are so wise in your 21 years of life. I've been going out to CCC since most of you were in diapers. And its because of kids like you, spewing off at the mouth, that places like this get a bad name.
I've been going out to CCC since most of you were in diapers. And its because of kids like you, spewing off at the mouth, that places like this get a bad name.
I just don't get people...funny how nobody responded to my Drive-by comment.
Here are the facts. On a saturday night, 11pm-2am on CCC
within 4 weeks, there will be another accident
within 8 weeks, there will be another serious accident
within 12 weeks, there will be another fatality
All this...in a 3 hour window, one night a week. Only one of the above will be caused by streetracing. 2 of these accidents will get posted on TR. One will invlove a member or a friend of a TR member.
How do you like those numbers?
Compare it too this. TR/TF has been having 'meets' at QSL for what, 2 years now. It's a 3 hour window, 1 night a week, just like CCC. No accidents, and nobody has died...and people get to shoot the shit.
Care to justify that?
I guess I just care too much about the members of this site.
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I'm not going to respond to that only because of the fact that you quoted something and made it out to be that I was directing towards you. Ummm look again, I wasn't. Those words weren't from you.
Then I guess I am. But heres the big difference. When I went out there, these problems didn't exist as they do now. And if you are the older, wiser one that you say you are, then you would know this. My days of doing circles around the bay are over with. If you would like to make this a personal attack then bring it on.
I'm not getting emotional over anything. I'm stating how I feel and responding to what people are saying to me. What happened, once again (I feeling like I have turetts) was an unavoidable accident. Plain and simple. Speeding, drinking whatever.
I've taught my son not to be the idiot out there. Not to be the one that is causing the shit. Most of the miss guided teenagers that you are talking about don't have a "guide" to go by. They have been misguided themselves. Is what they are doing right? No but its not going to stop. You can stand on your soapbox all day long but people are going to make their own decisions.
And as far as Crossroads last night. It had nothing to do with the fact of people out at CCC hanging out bull shitting. It had to do with the fact that kid was drag racing on a busy street in the middle of the day! 2 lives were lost. Heres the link so you can brush up on it.
Miscasting, maudlin plot make <i>Crossroads </i>a disappointing Hallmark entry: SouthFlorida.com
The good ole "I'm older, smarter, richer, fill in the blank line". If you've been going to CCC since some members were in diapers, then you too are the problem.
I'm not getting emotional over anything. I'm stating how I feel and responding to what people are saying to me. What happened, once again (I feeling like I have turetts) was an unavoidable accident. Plain and simple. Speeding, drinking whatever.
I've taught my son not to be the idiot out there. Not to be the one that is causing the shit. Most of the miss guided teenagers that you are talking about don't have a "guide" to go by. They have been misguided themselves. Is what they are doing right? No but its not going to stop. You can stand on your soapbox all day long but people are going to make their own decisions.
And as far as Crossroads last night. It had nothing to do with the fact of people out at CCC hanging out bull shitting. It had to do with the fact that kid was drag racing on a busy street in the middle of the day! 2 lives were lost. Heres the link so you can brush up on it.
Miscasting, maudlin plot make <i>Crossroads </i>a disappointing Hallmark entry: SouthFlorida.com
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I'll make it real simple.
This accident was "unavoidable", you are correct, and I don't disagree with that (and yes, it's a tragedy).
And this is the problem. It doesn't matter what you taught your son (I'm sure Robert's parents did the same, as any proud parent would have). Nobody was racing, and you yourself said it was unavoidable.
So, let me fill you in.
Name another stretch of road as dangerous as this in a defined time frame, where people like to 'hang out'.
knowing how dangerous this location is...do you still think it's okay to hang out there? Before you answer that, remember, incidents like this one were 'Unavoidable', and didn't even involve streetracing.
This accident was "unavoidable", you are correct, and I don't disagree with that (and yes, it's a tragedy).
I've taught my son not to be the idiot out there. Not to be the one that is causing the shit.
So, let me fill you in.
On a saturday night, 11pm-2am on CCC
within 4 weeks, there will be another accident
within 8 weeks, there will be another serious accident
within 12 weeks, there will be another fatality
within 4 weeks, there will be another accident
within 8 weeks, there will be another serious accident
within 12 weeks, there will be another fatality
knowing how dangerous this location is...do you still think it's okay to hang out there? Before you answer that, remember, incidents like this one were 'Unavoidable', and didn't even involve streetracing.
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