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View Poll Results: Best 4-Cylinder Engine Ever?
Honda B18C5 (Integra Type R)
67
14.14%
Honda F20C (Honda S2000)
45
9.49%
Honda K20A (Acura RSX-S/DC5 Integra Type R)
60
12.66%
Subaru EJ25 (STI)
36
7.59%
Mitsubishi 4G63 (Evo and DSMs)
151
31.86%
Toyota 3S-GTE (Celica All-Trac and MR2 Turbo)
23
4.85%
Chevrolet 2.2L Ecotec (Cobalt/Ion Redline)
17
3.59%
Nissan SR20-DET (Spec-R Silvias/Everyone and their mom's 240s)
75
15.82%
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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btw as for the dsm guy talkin shit about GM interiors I've been inside about 6 dsms and haven't seen any with a complete interior, mostly because shit is broken or hanging down

I like my interior I get plenty of complements on the seats, the ashtray makes a great hideaway switch panel and the a/c vents fit autometer gauges perfectly
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Street Surgeon
What does a motor have to do to impress you then? How about this, can you triple an LS1's whp without changing the factory internals, how about a 302 or modular 4.6? There are QUITE a few 500+whp 4G63's running around on stock block, crank, rods, pistons etc. Even a few that broke the 600whp barrier with all the above. All from a motor that put out 195bhp from the factory or about 160ish to the wheels. THAT is impressive no matter how you look at it. Don't even get me started on 302's.... Those motors split themselves easy enough as is.
as far as I know I've seen LS7's with 800rwhp on bottom ends terminators (aka 03-04 cobra motors) with 800+rwhp with stock motors

honestly I'm not trying to downplay the capabilities of any 4 cylinder, fucking eh I like em too but I'm tired of people being ignorant about anything made stateside
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian
You guys wanna compare dick sizes with interior? Sit in a E46 M3 and stfu. Interior is irrelevant!

4G63 makes insane power insanely easy. Nuff said. Frankly I'm surprised how easily it competes with a V8 power wise...and at the end of the day you can still get a rediculous 27-30mpg if need be.

Also, I'd like to point out the thread of "if you could have anybody's car on here, which would it be"...and Jerry's Mirage was the unanimous winner overall...hmmm..

Oh, and when they make a 4 banger SBC but cutting one in half, then it'll be cool.

err...no, even then it wont..

You know what? Actually being able to get to spark plugs is gay. Spark plug wires, exhaust manifolds, 1 piece 1 head, far lighter design, gay gay gay. Assuming you are talking about pushrod V8s even...what does it take to upgrade the cam? Wow, pulling out the fucking radiator, condensor, fan, and everything else in the way? Damn, if only they made it easier to axcess to upgrade...you know, like on top of the damn head....
whats the typical gains of a cam swap in a dohc 4 cylinder? what's the cost of a cam swap in a dohc 4 cylinder?

what's the gains of a cam swap in a ohv v8? what's the cost of a cam swap in a ohv v8?

ease of install doesn't outweigh the cons

cost of 4g63 cams (500-700 dollars)
cost of LS1/LT1 cam (250-300 dollars)
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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btw orion you know a complete LS1 weighs less than a complete SR20?
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by myltwon
whats the typical gains of a cam swap in a dohc 4 cylinder? what's the cost of a cam swap in a dohc 4 cylinder?

cost:300 bucks for both cams
gains:being able to rev the car out to 9k

i know in the v8 it gives it probably a bigger gain though.
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DsmInduction
cost:300 bucks for both cams
gains:being able to rev the car out to 9k

i know in the v8 it gives it probably a bigger gain though.
according to summit they range from 500-700 for crower and crane
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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im just saying what you can get them for, the brian crowers are actually 350 bucks for the pair and from what i hear they are good cams
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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Crower Performance Level 3 Camshaft $554.99

Crower Performance Level 3 Camshafts: CRO-64414-2 - summitracing.com
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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ok well i was lookin at brian crowers. im wondering how hes sellin em for so cheap! BrianCrower.com
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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DsmInduction
ok well i was lookin at brian crowers. im wondering how hes sellin em for so cheap! BrianCrower.com
Easy, there the same as all Crower cams, but without the big over head now. He makes them, hell he made them at crower cams and now he can do them cheaper without having to deal working within a big company.

Once the words out and he gets bigger the price will go up
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