5 speed vs. Automatic
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yes. considering you'll spend 150+ on a cold air intake that could be done for 10...you'll buy 1000 dollar chrome wheels, you'll put a system in your car, or you may spend 450+ dollars on an exhaust system...
so yea...most people can afford a measly 250-400 dollars and a couple hours to replace a valve body.
so yea...most people can afford a measly 250-400 dollars and a couple hours to replace a valve body.
but you are correct, i don't know anything about those, but why would that be better than a manual?
pardon my ignorance
EDIT:reading about it on allpar
does this still hold true though?
Automatic transmissions lose power because they have a fluid interface: the pass power along through a thick oil. Lockup torque converters improve highway economy, but must be disengaged while upshifting. Manual transmissions have minimal power loss because they rely on two plates pressing tightly against each other.
In short, it is normal for manual-transmission versions of the same car to outspeed their automatic-transmission brethren by about one second from zero to sixty, while getting three to six miles per gallon better mileage. The cheapest performance upgrade you can make is to buy your next car with a five-speed, because it costs less and gives more.
In short, it is normal for manual-transmission versions of the same car to outspeed their automatic-transmission brethren by about one second from zero to sixty, while getting three to six miles per gallon better mileage. The cheapest performance upgrade you can make is to buy your next car with a five-speed, because it costs less and gives more.
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Automatic transmissions lose power because they have a fluid interface: the pass power along through a thick oil. Lockup torque converters improve highway economy, but must be disengaged while upshifting. Manual transmissions have minimal power loss because they rely on two plates pressing tightly against each other.
In short, it is normal for manual-transmission versions of the same car to outspeed their automatic-transmission brethren by about one second from zero to sixty, while getting three to six miles per gallon better mileage. The cheapest performance upgrade you can make is to buy your next car with a five-speed, because it costs less and gives more.
In short, it is normal for manual-transmission versions of the same car to outspeed their automatic-transmission brethren by about one second from zero to sixty, while getting three to six miles per gallon better mileage. The cheapest performance upgrade you can make is to buy your next car with a five-speed, because it costs less and gives more.
3-6 better mpg, lmfao I get about 20mpg which is about = 6 speed version
1 second lost in 0-60mph, lmfao....right....maybe like a tenth or two, then throw in a stall convertor and see how it goes
yes a manual has less drivetrain powerloss, but it's not nearly as exaggerated as alot of people make it out to be
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