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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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2 new options out there now in the midsize sport truck segment

2005 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner - MSRP starts around $23,500 MPG: City/Highway 16/21 - Max Towing Capacity 3,500lbs








It's larger than its predecessor, with additional four-and-a-half inches of interior room, a four-inch wider track, and a wheelbase that's five inches longer. Tacoma will be available in regular, extended, and crew cab form with 4- and 6-cylinder power. The X-Runner chassis will sit about an inch lower than the regular Tacoma. The only powertrain available is a 240-horsepower 4.0-liter V6 engine mated to a six-speed manual transmission. Available later is an optional TRD supercharger, which ups horsepower to 300 and drops the 0 to 60 mph time to 6.0 seconds. Anti-lock brakes will be standard on the X-Runner, and options on all Tacomas will include a vehicle stability control system as well as side-curtain airbags.

Unlike other Tacomas with two-wheel-drive, the X-Runner is slammed one inch, rides on 18-inch 45-series performance tires(Bridgestone Potenza RE 050A) and employs firmer and shorter springs with specially tuned Bilstein gas shocks. The rear shocks are mounted outboard of the frame rails, similar to the 2004 Ford F-150, for increased vehicle stability. Front and rear stabilizer bars are standard, as well as a limited-slip differential.

Toyota claims that roadholding exceeds 0.9 g’s of lateral acceleration.


2005 Nissan Frontier - the new Frontier’s tow rating is at 5,500 lbs (also subject to change before production) - MSRP: Unknown, MPG:Unknown






265 horsepower and 284 lb-ft of torque - 6 speed manual option

And finally Nissan has now decided it was time for the VQ (all-aluminum, DOHC, and 24 valves) to go into the new Frontier. For the V-6 models, Nissan bumped the already large 3.5 liter displacement to 4 liters! This larger V-6 features the usual VQ formula for success: Continuous Valve Timing Control (C-VTC), Nissan variable Induction Control System (NICS), silent and long-life timing chain, microfinished camshaft and crankshaft surfaces, moly-coated pistons, resin intake manifold, cross flow engine coolant pattern, high capacity muffler, and platinum-tipped spark plugs.

Nissan, in their usual mind game with other manufacturers, won’t announce final horsepower figures until the vehicle is close to release. They’re giving out an estimate of over 250 bhp and 270 lb-ft of torque. Uh-huh. If the VQ35DE in the 350Z makes 287 bhp, we’d bet a few dollars the new VQ40DE would (or could easily) crank out over 290 horsepower and a lot more torque. One reason behind the secrecy may be the Frontier’s arch- enemy, the Toyota Tacoma, which will be offered with a factory supercharger option good for over 300 bhp.


Not too big, not too small sizing for most, mid 20k range, enough towing capacity for most needs, HP levels crushing the domestic V6 offerings and closing in on the V-8's, great handling, and fairly economical.

GM, Ford, Dodge need to work on an affordable midsize sport truck


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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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I'm thinking of getting the X-Runner instead of a Supra. Mom wants an older 4Runner till she can afford a RX300, and I told her to concider a new Tacoma to hold her off. After that, I'd get the X-Runner (she really doesnt want me to have a Supra) and pay off alot of it.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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i think the toyota is a little bit too "look at me" but i am a big fan of the nissan truck. very nice looking and you can't go wrong with a 4 liter vq + 6-speed. Be interesting to see how the price compares to the toyota.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Lol I saw 4.0L and 6-speed, then 'compares to Toyota' and thought you were talking about it Quite similar.

My guess is the Nissan engine, just like the Toyota, is incredible. Both are probably choked off, either through BS numbers, 'bad' dynos, intake+exhaust, or a combination.
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i guess i am also partial to 4 door trucks... don't know if toyota is going to offer a 4 door. I just think there is too much body cladding on the yota.
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No 4 door X-Runner, but the "Double Cab V6 manual" shares the "exclusive" 6-spd.
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Originally posted by 99TL
i guess i am also partial to 4 door trucks
X-runner has 4-doors... well kind of.... half doors, they open a full 90 degrees in back
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New Tacoma is a BIG ASS truck....hell....those 18's look like 14's. Hmmmm.....wonder what the actual size difference is between last years and this one.

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Toyota one looks like it's liking the Scion look...ah modernization. I'd take the Nissan one personally.
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Originally posted by RiceRocket
New Tacoma is a BIG ASS truck....onder what the actual size difference is between last years and this one.

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Nah, read grasshopper
"It's larger than its predecessor, with additional four-and-a-half inches of interior room, a four-inch wider track, and a wheelbase that's five inches longer. "

FYI.... it's 22 inches longer than your Mazda 6...
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