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Originally posted by williamb82
ok, im gonna explain this for the simple minded folk. the studs will get pulled because of the high cylinder pressures that exsist when you run alot of boost. we didnt pull the studs out, the hg blew because the pressures in the cylinders caused the head to try and pop off the block. but to do that it had to pull the studs with it. make sense now. aluminum is malable. it is used because it is light weight. for an n/a engine it should be fine, but for a motor that is see's lots of boost all the time it is far from desirable. this is all to due with reliability. for full blown drag cars, they throw that to the wind.
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ok, im gonna explain this for the simple minded folk. the studs will get pulled because of the high cylinder pressures that exsist when you run alot of boost. we didnt pull the studs out, the hg blew because the pressures in the cylinders caused the head to try and pop off the block. but to do that it had to pull the studs with it. make sense now. aluminum is malable. it is used because it is light weight. for an n/a engine it should be fine, but for a motor that is see's lots of boost all the time it is far from desirable. this is all to due with reliability. for full blown drag cars, they throw that to the wind.
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Originally posted by williamb82
oh, and btw, i HAVE seen a honda motor do just what i stated. boosted a max of 22psi. lasted maybe 2 weeks. then started smoking. upon disassembly the head bolt threads were stripped due to the pressure. head had never been off before so you cant say faulty instalation.
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oh, and btw, i HAVE seen a honda motor do just what i stated. boosted a max of 22psi. lasted maybe 2 weeks. then started smoking. upon disassembly the head bolt threads were stripped due to the pressure. head had never been off before so you cant say faulty instalation.
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im sorry but anyone that did not say the 3SGTE is wrong....how can you argue with the motor that toyota has built the majority of its LeMans race cars around for countless years.
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teh 503e LeMans motor toyota uses is slightly based around the 3SGTE but its defiantely not hte same motor ...
Look up some of the the pictures of Toyota motors and type in 503e .. The JGTC GT500 Supra's used 503e's
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...%20Engines.htm
Look up some of the the pictures of Toyota motors and type in 503e .. The JGTC GT500 Supra's used 503e's
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...%20Engines.htm
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Originally posted by williamb82
and if you want to see which engine is really better, but a 3sgte on an engine stand next to a 4g63 and start dissassembling them both. you will see which one is better. the exhaust manifold bolts on the 4g63 are a joke, as is most everything else on that engine. it was built cheeply, and it shows. also the stock turbos are pure garbage. i have not seen more blown stock turbos from any other turbocharged vehicle, you can blame it on people turning up the boost too high which helps kill them, but i know people that never modded their engines or raised the boost and still had lots of problems.
and if you want to see which engine is really better, but a 3sgte on an engine stand next to a 4g63 and start dissassembling them both. you will see which one is better. the exhaust manifold bolts on the 4g63 are a joke, as is most everything else on that engine. it was built cheeply, and it shows. also the stock turbos are pure garbage. i have not seen more blown stock turbos from any other turbocharged vehicle, you can blame it on people turning up the boost too high which helps kill them, but i know people that never modded their engines or raised the boost and still had lots of problems.
What’s so cheap about it? The block/crank will take 800+hp, the rods are pretty stout. How can you call an engine cheap when it will support huge numbers for not even taking off the valve cover?
You sound uneducated on the subject.
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i am calling it cheap because it is. i have rebuilt one of each the 4g63 and 3sgte and the parts in the 4g63 are crap in comparisson. as for the block and crank holding 800rwhp, how often do you hear of ANY crank in ANY engine breaking? it takes alot more then a block and crank to make up an engine.
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Re: 4 cyl
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You say the head had never been off, and they were running 22 psi for 2 weeks, and then started smoking? umm thats pretty impressive to me, most motors cant last that long with 22 psi considering the head has never been takin off, that leads me to conclude that the bottem end was never touched either, considering this is not a naturally born turbo motor, I'd say not too bad, so stop hatin playa. -Ben
You say the head had never been off, and they were running 22 psi for 2 weeks, and then started smoking? umm thats pretty impressive to me, most motors cant last that long with 22 psi considering the head has never been takin off, that leads me to conclude that the bottem end was never touched either, considering this is not a naturally born turbo motor, I'd say not too bad, so stop hatin playa. -Ben
im not hating, i was impressed it lasted that long, even though it was only a t3 turbo, but i just cant see why someone would use an aluminum block to build a high output engine if they want it to last. but, no point in arguing, everyone has their own opinion and this argument would never end.
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williamb82.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
please go back to where you came from.
You appear to be more of an idiot everytime you post.
Thank you.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
please go back to where you came from.
You appear to be more of an idiot everytime you post.
Thank you.
