Fineshed custon 3" dual exhaust with X pipe and Tq arm/brace
About 100 man hours of work right there!
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My boss jsut made a 3" rear y pipe for a c4 vette. Came out very awesome for using already bent pieces. We had a exhaust try and make one, but it just came 1 huge cluster fuck
Now is that torque arm brace going to prevent the d/s from lifting on acceleration?
Now is that torque arm brace going to prevent the d/s from lifting on acceleration?
Mars...I know the F body/Tq arm suspension is tough to understand....believe me I know..lol.
Basically the drive shaft loop was just integrated into the Tq arm mount. It doesnt do much except try to contain the DS if it should snap.
The important stuff is basically the bar to the left of the drive shaft...its the Tq arm. Its mounted to the rear end. It does a few things. When you launch hard it will transmit the twisting force of the rear to that fwd mount...pushing up. This helps transfer weight to the rear by lifting the front. It can be a considerable force. The Tq arm aslo is used to adjust pinion angle for the rear U joint. Keeps the DS and the yoke on the rear end aligned. The Tq arm now has 5 adjustment points on the front mount. That will change how the force is transmitted.
The other thing about this setup...is it takes the fwd Tq armattach point off the tranny. The stock piece is attached to the tranny on a weak aluminum mount. The stock Tq arm is also just a weak stamped steel piece. MIne is now chrome moly. The cross brace is tied into the subframe connectors. Cross brace is stainless steel.
All in all that Tq arm should be strong enough for low 9s high 8s easy.
Basically the drive shaft loop was just integrated into the Tq arm mount. It doesnt do much except try to contain the DS if it should snap.
The important stuff is basically the bar to the left of the drive shaft...its the Tq arm. Its mounted to the rear end. It does a few things. When you launch hard it will transmit the twisting force of the rear to that fwd mount...pushing up. This helps transfer weight to the rear by lifting the front. It can be a considerable force. The Tq arm aslo is used to adjust pinion angle for the rear U joint. Keeps the DS and the yoke on the rear end aligned. The Tq arm now has 5 adjustment points on the front mount. That will change how the force is transmitted.
The other thing about this setup...is it takes the fwd Tq armattach point off the tranny. The stock piece is attached to the tranny on a weak aluminum mount. The stock Tq arm is also just a weak stamped steel piece. MIne is now chrome moly. The cross brace is tied into the subframe connectors. Cross brace is stainless steel.
All in all that Tq arm should be strong enough for low 9s high 8s easy.
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Originally posted by Dead Hooker
Good thing you helped for 2 or 3...........
Good thing you helped for 2 or 3...........
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Last edited by HybridSS; Feb 21, 2004 at 10:26 PM.
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Originally posted by HybridSS
Mars...I know the F body/Tq arm suspension is tough to understand....believe me I know..lol.
Basically the drive shaft loop was just integrated into the Tq arm mount. It doesnt do much except try to contain the DS if it should snap.
The important stuff is basically the bar to the left of the drive shaft...its the Tq arm. Its mounted to the rear end. It does a few things. When you launch hard it will transmit the twisting force of the rear to that fwd mount...pushing up. This helps transfer weight to the rear by lifting the front. It can be a considerable force. The Tq arm aslo is used to adjust pinion angle for the rear U joint. Keeps the DS and the yoke on the rear end aligned. The Tq arm now has 5 adjustment points on the front mount. That will change how the force is transmitted.
The other thing about this setup...is it takes the fwd Tq armattach point off the tranny. The stock piece is attached to the tranny on a weak aluminum mount. The stock Tq arm is also just a weak stamped steel piece. MIne is now chrome moly. The cross brace is tied into the subframe connectors. Cross brace is stainless steel.
All in all that Tq arm should be strong enough for low 9s high 8s easy.
Mars...I know the F body/Tq arm suspension is tough to understand....believe me I know..lol.
Basically the drive shaft loop was just integrated into the Tq arm mount. It doesnt do much except try to contain the DS if it should snap.
The important stuff is basically the bar to the left of the drive shaft...its the Tq arm. Its mounted to the rear end. It does a few things. When you launch hard it will transmit the twisting force of the rear to that fwd mount...pushing up. This helps transfer weight to the rear by lifting the front. It can be a considerable force. The Tq arm aslo is used to adjust pinion angle for the rear U joint. Keeps the DS and the yoke on the rear end aligned. The Tq arm now has 5 adjustment points on the front mount. That will change how the force is transmitted.
The other thing about this setup...is it takes the fwd Tq armattach point off the tranny. The stock piece is attached to the tranny on a weak aluminum mount. The stock Tq arm is also just a weak stamped steel piece. MIne is now chrome moly. The cross brace is tied into the subframe connectors. Cross brace is stainless steel.
All in all that Tq arm should be strong enough for low 9s high 8s easy.
It just looks like here the loop and cross member are now tied together where the torque arm. Which seems it help from that movement of the tranny itself. But will also prevent the pinion angle from changing on acceleration. Or am I seeing things wrong?
No... your seeing it right. But the DS will not move that much. I have poly engine mounts and tranny mounts that move very little. If it moved so much that the DS hits the loop...something else would be broke. There is alot of clearance there.
And now that the TQ arm is no longer mounted to the tranny...the tranny moves very little under a hard launch.
This is similair to the BMR extreme Tq arm or the MADMAN racing set up. Except thiers will not work with true dual exhaust. And ours is quite a bit stronger.
Its all basically tied together now and is very strong. Cant ait to test it at thwe track
And now that the TQ arm is no longer mounted to the tranny...the tranny moves very little under a hard launch.
This is similair to the BMR extreme Tq arm or the MADMAN racing set up. Except thiers will not work with true dual exhaust. And ours is quite a bit stronger.
Its all basically tied together now and is very strong. Cant ait to test it at thwe track
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Originally posted by 0HP930
Thats nice and all, but at 100 hours your either counting the beer drinking and looking at stuff time or someone is milking that job.
Thats nice and all, but at 100 hours your either counting the beer drinking and looking at stuff time or someone is milking that job.
Al...your car scares me.


