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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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ok so i replaced my heads, add 1.72 rollers, and cleaned up the engine bay the past week and a half and finally got it back together. now i go to start it in hopes that i have everything done right and it doesnt start. it turns over but wont start
at first i had to find TDC so it took me awhile because i dont know anyone out here to help me and i dont have the socket with me thats big enough to turn it over by hand. so i had to check it then bump it and go back and forth for a while. lol
anyway, as i was doin that, with nothing but misses, sometimes it would turn over some and than id hear a burst of air from the intake blowing a vacuum line off.
finally i got it set by lining up the harmonic balancer to the timing pin but still no luck.
also if checked every plug and connection multiple times to try and figure this out.

so if ANYONE can throw me an idea please do so
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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If your doing it by yourself my guess is that you dont have the dizzy stabbed correctly.

You need someone to help you.

This is a very easy method to find TDC for cylinder #1. Dont trust the timing marker,.. its not always 100% accurate.

Pull #1 plug out. Either wire up a remote starter on the solenoid or get someone to bump it over for you. As the motor is being bumped over,.. small bumps,.. spit on your thumb and hold it over the plug hole. Just before TDC it will blow your thumb off the hole. The bump should have it close to TDC,.. look at the timing mark,.. it should be close. Dont sweat it if the mark is off,.. its not 100%. Now turn the button in the dizzy to just before where #1 is on the cap. Its going to rotate as you drop it in. You want it to fall on #1. You dont need the cap on,.. you need to watch the button as your stabbing it to see if your a tooth off. I usually put the cap on and use a perm marker to draw a line from #1 down to the bottom so when I pull the cap off I know where #1 is. Stab it,.. bump the motor over again and stop when it blows your thumb off. The button should be pointing at #1. Wire the cap up,.. coil and dont forget to wire it counter clockwise. Put the spark plug back in. The motor should now fire up.

Once youve got it fired up,.. turn it off. Pull the spout off,.. get a timing light, start it back up and set the timing. I usually do mine by ear. Not everyone can do this,.. I have an ear for timing and can honestly say that I have never set my timing wrong. I usually have it between 12 - 15 deg advanced. 93 Octane setting,.. then put the spout back on. Start it back up and it should be good to go.

Hope that helps.

If it still wont fire up,.. then you have another problem somewhere else. Check your wiring,.. connections,.. etc etc.

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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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thanks hurst, ill have to get a start button from work tomorrow

so u think it could just be timing related?
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Superwes98
thanks hurst, ill have to get a start button from work tomorrow

so u think it could just be timing related?
I agree with Hurst on this one...Sounds like the Dizzy is off which is causing a valve to be open at the wrong time when it should be closed which is then allowing the piston to push the compressionn into your intake manifold causing the burst of air your hearing which inturn is blowing off the vacuum line(s) at the intake manifold.

Also BTW:

All you need to wire a remote starter is Either a Toggle switch or momentary switch & 2 Pieces of wire a few feet in length to give you some slack.

Connect the 2 wires to the starter solenoid...I like to use an Ring terminal held on with a nut if you dont have the right size nut then aligator clips or close pin could work aswell to hold the terminals on the post....Then touch the other ends of the wires together to make sure the car turns over then go ahead and hook them up to your switch and bump away!!

Good Luck with it!

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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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thanks alot, thats makes me feel alot better

but i work at a boat repair shop so we have starter buttons all over lol
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Superwes98
thanks hurst, ill have to get a start button from work tomorrow

so u think it could just be timing related?

Thats my opinion. Not guaranteed to be right,.. but an educated guess.

I made my own starter button,.. Advance or Autozone sell 30 amp momentary switches,.. (They close the circuit when you press it,.. then releases when you let go.), 2 wires about 6 feet long,.. I use alligator clips to lock it on the solenoid and hold the button in my hand. 12 gauge wire and button cost me like $5.

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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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I suggest to buy a manual and do some reading BEFORE you tear stuff apart. There is a lot of info thats easy to read. This kind of stuff is engine basics 101
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Originally Posted by Hurstmeister
I made my own starter button,.. Advance or Autozone sell 30 amp momentary switches,.. (They close the circuit when you press it,.. then releases when you let go.), 2 wires about 6 feet long,.. I use alligator clips to lock it on the solenoid and hold the button in my hand. 12 gauge wire and button cost me like $5.

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Thats the exact same thing i just told him to do a few post above! lol are my words meaningless?
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Originally Posted by GNs-r-slow
I suggest to buy a manual and do some reading BEFORE you tear stuff apart. There is a lot of info thats easy to read. This kind of stuff is engine basics 101
I agree 100% with ya tommy! But I wouldnt really consider reseating the distributor "tearing stuff apart" lol
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Originally Posted by Tony@1320Motorsports
I agree 100% with ya tommy! But I wouldnt really consider reseating the distributor "tearing stuff apart" lol
Sure it is...they tell you pointers like MARKING where the rotor is before you tear it out.
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