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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Shamus O'Toole
You need to go back and look at the history of that visit. Thats back when Iraq and Iran were at war. The US and the Un supported Iraq during this war. This was not that long after the Iran hostage crisis, so you can understand why we would support Iraq. This was also during the cold war and Russia was supporting Iran.
Rumsfeld was also sent there by the President, unlike Polosi who has no right spouting forghein policy of the US.
+1 thats when the US backed Iraq to keep the Iranians in place.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Oh the Dems will spin themselves out of this one too. They still have the playbook from Slick Willy And The Felicio's.
Because the Republicans with Bill O'Riley have the 'no-spin' zone, right? You act like everybody and their mother doesn't try to spin everything.

By the way, don't lump all of us together. I wish her Gulfstream XXIBIXI or whatever the hell she requested just dissapeared over the ocean and she was never heard from again. She's the single largest blot on our party currently that there is...except for maybe Hillary Clinton...


Oh yeah, though. Do you have any background or a story to go with that pic, or do you just not like her cuz she wouldn't put out for you, Pat?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by vip18971
She's the single largest blot on our party currently that there is...except for maybe Hillary Clinton.

really....I could name about 10 others....please lets not get off the subject.
Pelosi is a fucking asshole Liberal so far fucking left. We need a moderate republican in office.

Are you even old enough to vote?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Pat
really....I could name about 10 others....please lets not get off the subject.
Pelosi is a fucking asshole Liberal so far fucking left. We need a moderate republican in office.

Are you even old enough to vote?
Why not a moderate Democrat? Who would you rather have, Rudy? I guess he's moderate right? I mean he hates guns, thats a crossover stance. Oh yeah, he hates freedoms too. whats the easiest way to clean up New York? Make everything illegal and rip away as many civil liberties as you can!

Nobody is perefct - hell, I don't get along with half of my own party. Mainly because that half is comprised of a bunch of fucking liberal hippies. You were close with your description of what we need - just one word off in fact. We need MODERATES in power. This right wing leadership has the country all kinds of fucked up. Likewise, its also been proven that left wing leadership does so after a while, too. We need MODERATES in office, and Pelosi is far form a moderate. She's one of the left wing nuts that all of us moderates are trying to shove under the rug and keep quiet while we fix things.

Yup, and I've been voting snice I was old enough. I voice my opinion.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Shamus O'Toole
You need to go back and look at the history of that visit. Thats back when Iraq and Iran were at war. The US and the Un supported Iraq during this war. This was not that long after the Iran hostage crisis, so you can understand why we would support Iraq. This was also during the cold war and Russia was supporting Iran.
Rumsfeld was also sent there by the President, unlike Polosi who has no right spouting forghein policy of the US.
exactly!
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vip18971
Why not a moderate Democrat? Who would you rather have, Rudy? I guess he's moderate right? I mean he hates guns, thats a crossover stance. Oh yeah, he hates freedoms too. whats the easiest way to clean up New York? Make everything illegal and rip away as many civil liberties as you can!

Nobody is perefct - hell, I don't get along with half of my own party. Mainly because that half is comprised of a bunch of fucking liberal hippies. You were close with your description of what we need - just one word off in fact. We need MODERATES in power. This right wing leadership has the country all kinds of fucked up. Likewise, its also been proven that left wing leadership does so after a while, too. We need MODERATES in office, and Pelosi is far form a moderate. She's one of the left wing nuts that all of us moderates are trying to shove under the rug and keep quiet while we fix things.

Yup, and I've been voting snice I was old enough. I voice my opinion.
Dems support tax hikes.........Rep support tax relief.so wtf?? swing on the mod rep nuts nicca'
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Pat
Dems support tax hikes.........Rep support tax relief.so wtf?? swing on the mod rep nuts nicca'
Stance on taxes are a very small part of what make up a good leader. Furthermore, its a very shortsided approach to think that raising or lowering taxes is a safe or effective method on its own. Remember we are running a country here, and this country does have to spend a lot of money for us, because they DO provide a lot of public goods for us.

We need fiscally responsible people in office. the days of Republicans always being fiscally responsible are long gone. We can't rely on a party letter to give us leaders that stand for something by default. First you fix government spending - stop paying 20 dollars for a fucking bolt and 200 dor a doorknob. Quit giving LaShonda and her 7 kids money to buy crack and sit in Section 8 housing with. quit helping every slant eyed bastard who gets hit by a natural disaster half a world away. (somethign the extreme left wingers won't do, which is why I don't like them very much) THEN you adjust taxes to a level they need to be at. At that point, whatever we have to pay is what we have to pay.

If you don't have to pay as many taxes but your country is operating in the red...well...lets just say your money won't be worth the paper its printed on after a while. We've got to tackle this issue from the other end, no matter what Joe average american who couldn't think Macroeconomically if their life depended on it says.
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Originally Posted by vip18971
Stance on taxes are a very small part of what make up a good leader. Furthermore, its a very shortsided approach to think that raising or lowering taxes is a safe or effective method on its own. Remember we are running a country here, and this country does have to spend a lot of money for us, because they DO provide a lot of public goods for us.

We need fiscally responsible people in office. the days of Republicans always being fiscally responsible are long gone. We can't rely on a party letter to give us leaders that stand for something by default. First you fix government spending - stop paying 20 dollars for a fucking bolt and 200 dor a doorknob. Quit giving LaShonda and her 7 kids money to buy crack and sit in Section 8 housing with. quit helping every slant eyed bastard who gets hit by a natural disaster half a world away. (somethign the extreme left wingers won't do, which is why I don't like them very much) THEN you adjust taxes to a level they need to be at. At that point, whatever we have to pay is what we have to pay.

If you don't have to pay as many taxes but your country is operating in the red...well...lets just say your money won't be worth the paper its printed on after a while. We've got to tackle this issue from the other end, no matter what Joe average american who couldn't think Macroeconomically if their life depended on it says.

and don't forget to send back every fucking illegal alien BACK where they came from...
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Originally Posted by Uncle Pat
and don't forget to send back every fucking illegal alien BACK where they came from...
No way in hell, dude.






















I'd rather execute them as invaders and send a few hundred home to spread the word. But I'm crazy(efficent) like that.
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