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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Governor Charlie Crist Signs House Bill 503
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Florida Governor Charlie Crist today signed important National Rifle Association (NRA)–backed legislation into law that will protect the existing rights of law-abiding gun owners. House Bill 503 preserves the self-defense rights of law-abiding men and women as they travel in their cars to and from their daily activities.

“Customers and workers should not have to choose between protecting themselves or following the political policies of an anti-gun business,” said NRA Past President Marion P. Hammer. “The right to protect oneself must be maintained no matter where you park your car.”

This legislation protects the rights of gun owners to possess a firearm in any private motor vehicle in a parking lot, and prevents businesses from searching private vehicles of customers or employees.

“This is a great day for the people of the state of Florida,” concluded Hammer. “Their right to keep and bear arms for self-defense and other lawful purposes has been restored.”
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Yay charlie! Fuck teh big mouse house!
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Not to grave dig, is this still in effect as of now? I'm looking to buy myself a gun here soon.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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Last I heard, it was CWP only. However, that may be wrong.

There are a few types of businesses which are exempt from this law. Check to make sure yours isn't one of them.


Also, when is the last time an employer searched an employee's car? People who want to carry guns are going to carry guns. As long as they keep their mouths shut about it, they won't be bothered. As for parking lots where you are the customer, I can't think of any instance where a business has ever hassled a customer over a gun in their car unless they did something stupid with it.

Also note the gun better not be readily accessable for immediate use in your car if you don't have a CWP. It needs to be in a closable container somehow. This could be a snap holster, your center console, a zippered or clasped case; just not available to be picked up and fired. And smack anyone who says something about a '3 step rule'. Then tell them that was from BAMF.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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^ Thanks for the .02
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 05:11 AM
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so even tho a cop will tell you there is a 3 step rule , it's not true?The cop who was putting on the cwp class told the class it was true , you just have to know what 3 steps are are actually 3 steps.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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Step 1. Cock gun

Step 2. Aim

Step 3. Pull trigger

Optional - Lather, rinse, repeat as necessary.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by fuelie327
so even tho a cop will tell you there is a 3 step rule , it's not true?The cop who was putting on the cwp class told the class it was true , you just have to know what 3 steps are are actually 3 steps.
Its complete bullshit. I can make anything '3 steps' if I wanted to. Hell, I can make that same '3 step' action into 5 steps if I wanted to. Look at the Fl Statute 790. There is no mention of '3 step'. Also, cops generally don't know the laws half as well as they pretend they do, and are NOT to be trusted for interpreting them, especially when those laws also happen to be your rights. You were given instructions to read Fl Statute 790 as part of obtaining your CWP. Had you read it in its entirety you would've realized the 3 step rule was bullshit; but don't feel bad, almost nobody read it all the way through.

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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=& URL=Ch0790/SEC25.HTM&Title=->2009->Ch0790->Section%2025#0790.25
790.25(5) POSSESSION IN PRIVATE CONVEYANCE.--Notwithstanding subsection (2), it is lawful and is not a violation of s. 790.01 for a person 18 years of age or older to possess a concealed firearm or other weapon for self-defense or other lawful purpose within the interior of a private conveyance, without a license, if the firearm or other weapon is securely encased or is otherwise not readily accessible for immediate use. Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use. Nothing herein contained shall be construed to authorize the carrying of a concealed firearm or other weapon on the person. This subsection shall be liberally construed in favor of the lawful use, ownership, and posshared_session of firearms and other weapons, including lawful self-defense as provided in s. 776.012.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=& URL=Ch0790/SEC001.HTM&Title=->2009->Ch0790->Section%20001#0790.001
790.001(17) "Securely encased" means in a glove compartment, whether or not locked; snapped in a holster; in a gun case, whether or not locked; in a zippered gun case; or in a closed box or container which requires a lid or cover to be opened for access.
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Originally Posted by DrDirt
Step 1. Cock gun

Step 2. Aim

Step 3. Pull trigger

Optional - Lather, rinse, repeat as necessary.
should already have one in the pipe with the hammer back and safety on.

1. remove safety/ aim in one motion
2. fire
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