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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve B
it is obvious you have no idea what the platform is called.

Allow me to post this link: Ford Fox platform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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The Ford Fox platform was a rear wheel drive, unibody automobile architecture that Ford used for 15 years in the North American market. It was designed to be relatively lightweight and simple, in keeping with the general downsizing of Detroit designs in the late 1970s.
Its initial appearance was in the compact car class, when the Ford Fairmont and Mercury Zephyr appeared in 1978. Eventually, a wide range of Ford models in several market segments would be built off it, with multiple bodystyles and powertrains.
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Originally Posted by Stangonline
If you said Fox Bodied, then I'd have to agree (79-93) but when you say Fox Platform...well.. are you aware that the basic design of the car, suspension and technology in general was the same from 79-04?

SN-95
The Ford Fox Mustang was redesigned in 1994 under the program code name SN-95. This version was wider and many parts were redesigned. The Fox saw gradually decreasing use as more Ford products went to front wheel drive. It finally ended production with the last 2004 Mustang. This platform was replaced for the 2005 Mustang (code named S-197), with the new Ford D2C platform.
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:40 AM
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i think you owned yourself with that last quote, try reading it again.



"The Fox saw gradually decreasing use as more Ford products went to front wheel drive. It finally ended production with the last 2004 Mustang."
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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The Ford Fox Mustang was redesigned in 1994 under the program code name SN-95. This version was wider and many parts were redesigned.
This is in direct contradiction to this:

Originally Posted by Stangonline
the basic design of the car, suspension and technology in general was the same from 79-04?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 06:54 AM
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In 1994, the Mustang underwent its first major redesign in 15 years. The design, code named "SN-95" by Ford, was based on an updated version of the rear-wheel drive Fox platform known as "Fox-4".
And therefore, not "Fox"
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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it's still based on the FOX platform, the changes ford made were small, that is why i can take 90% of the sn-95 stuff and bolt it up to a 79-93 mustang.
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such as?
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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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suspension, driveline, interior....you are the only one arguing against this.....


found this on wikipeda also
In 2003, Ford updated the Fox-based Cobra for the last time.
how about this one from here:
Ford Mustang GT!
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Ford Mustang - Wikicars

For 1994, the Mustang underwent its first major redesign in 15 years. The new design, code named "SN-95" by Ford, was still based on the "Fox" platform, but featured dramatically new styling by Patrick Schiavone that incorporated some stylistic throwbacks to earlier Mustangs.

Ford did not TOTALLY redesign the underpinnings of the mustang until the S197
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Funny, my seats from my 89 would not work in my 95. They were much more comfy. My driveline, I never tried to switch over, but that really has more to do with the engine and transmission than anything else, although the length is the same.

I find it odd that any time I have gone to buy suspension parts for my 95, they ask me if it's for a 94/95 or for the 87-93 then since the suspension parts all transfer over....Oh wait, they don't ALL transfer over.

Taken from your refrenced web page:
For 1994, the Mustang underwent its first major redesign in 15 years. The new design, code named "SN-95" by Ford, was still based on the "Fox" platform, but featured dramatically new styling...
Being "based" on something, does not make it the same. The 94-up mustangs are significantly different than the 79-93's. Saying that the 94 and up is a Fox is like saying that an orange is an apple because their both round. Thats all I'm saying. The94-98's are generally known as SN-95's, while the 79-93's are generally known as Fox's. Ford redesigned the Fox platform to make it wider and stronger. This is why it is wider, and weighs more.
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Originally Posted by 95coBraSVT
Funny, my seats from my 89 would not work in my 95. They were much more comfy. My driveline, I never tried to switch over, but that really has more to do with the engine and transmission than anything else, although the length is the same.

I find it odd that any time I have gone to buy suspension parts for my 95, they ask me if it's for a 94/95 or for the 87-93 then since the suspension parts all transfer over....Oh wait, they don't ALL transfer over.

Taken from your refrenced web page: Being "based" on something, does not make it the same. The 94-up mustangs are significantly different than the 79-93's. Saying that the 94 and up is a Fox is like saying that an orange is an apple because their both round. Thats all I'm saying. The94-98's are generally known as SN-95's, while the 79-93's are generally known as Fox's. Ford redesigned the Fox platform to make it wider and stronger. This is why it is wider, and weighs more.

Well just so you know the platform is not wider. The underside platform is Identical to the 79-93 cars. I know the differences more than most sense I build 4.6 swap cars.
And as far as suspension Ford made the Fox4 better known as the SN-95 wider by making the track width wider. Ford also made the body of the car wider, not the platform. That difference in suspension width is why some parts are different.
I bought a wrecked 2004 Cobra and transferred everything over to my 93 mustang coupe. My car uses everything listed from the cobra.
Engine,trans,driveshaft,wiring harnesses, fuel tank, the factory fuel line even followed the contour of my fox platform perfect. I used the cobra hydroboost brakes. hydroboost booster bolted right into the old boosters spot.
My suspension is as follows with no modifications to the cars body or platform.
95GT Spindles with 04 Cobra brakes.
95GT rearend
95GT E-brake cables
79-04 Springs
04 Cobra shocks and struts.
04 Cobra wheels and tires.
The platform of the 79-04 is the same with some very minor changes. Its not comparing apples to oranges calling the 94-04 Fox platforms.
An apple is still an apple whether its green or red or has a worm in it right?

Oh by the way your 88 mustang seat will bolt right into your 95 car using the same bolts and holes.

I have the 04 Cobra seats in my 93 mustang again with no modifications to the floor pan.

Get your 95 up on jackstands as well as your 88 and you'll see every little bump and spotweld on the bottom of both cars are the same and in the same spot.
Heres a link for history of mustangs: Mustang
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