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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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I have a paper to write and i chose the topic of: is street drifting ruining the persona of drifting. I would like to have people’s honest opinions on the matter. Would like to see actual arguments from all sides: the street people, the track people and the ones that do both.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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think about this as a great point.... is street racing effecting the persona of drag racing/ nhra... no its not... why because with everything theres going to be assholes that ruin or do whats not supposed to be done... racing on the streets, fighting on the streets basicaly my point is that with everything theres always going to be a few people who do effect everything but i dont see where its affecting anythings persona...
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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streets is where drifting came from. its our roots. it heightens the thrill simply because of the illegal factor. the problem isnt those who street drift in back parking lots or remote developments, its the ones who put others lives and property at extreme risk. I did, once upon a time, do street shenanigans because there was zero events in the US, let alone FL. Since there has been legal events in FL (2004) I have restrained myself to track only.

Those who feel 'remote areas' and parking lots is OK and shouldn't be frowned on are also wrong. There is no EMT or any help there if you smack into a pole or wall or parked vehicle. And if you had a friend there and you don't die/get seriously hurt, you might be going to jail and having to pay to repair all the damage on top. At a track you wreck, it sucks a lot, but you dont have to fix the wall, and EMT is there on hand, and you won't be going to jail.

You also have no idea of unknown holes/bumps/cars/people/ whatever on the street, that can change on a day to day or even minute to minute basis. At the track its clear and kept clean of hazards on the racing surface. Also speeds are generally able to be higher and still safer, at a real racing facility.

People argue its 'cheaper' to drift on the street and while they are right that there is no entry fee, there are other costs (jail/fines/injury) they far out weigh the 30-100$ entry at a track.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by box240mod
streets is where drifting came from. its our roots. it heightens the thrill simply because of the illegal factor. the problem isnt those who street drift in back parking lots or remote developments, its the ones who put others lives and property at extreme risk. I did, once upon a time, do street shenanigans because there was zero events in the US, let alone FL. Since there has been legal events in FL (2004) I have restrained myself to track only.

Those who feel 'remote areas' and parking lots is OK and shouldn't be frowned on are also wrong. There is no EMT or any help there if you smack into a pole or wall or parked vehicle. And if you had a friend there and you don't die/get seriously hurt, you might be going to jail and having to pay to repair all the damage on top. At a track you wreck, it sucks a lot, but you dont have to fix the wall, and EMT is there on hand, and you won't be going to jail.

You also have no idea of unknown holes/bumps/cars/people/ whatever on the street, that can change on a day to day or even minute to minute basis. At the track its clear and kept clean of hazards on the racing surface. Also speeds are generally able to be higher and still safer, at a real racing facility.

People argue its 'cheaper' to drift on the street and while they are right that there is no entry fee, there are other costs (jail/fines/injury) they far out weigh the 30-100$ entry at a track.
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I'm not trying to come off as some street douche, but for the past 7 months I was under the impression that you had to have a license to drift at places like Desoto, so for me it's been far easier to go to an empty parking lot with my brother in the dead of night to learn how to drift. At one particular place we used to go to a lot, there were 0 chances of crashing, an insignificant chance of getting caught, and it was all in good fun. One thing that keeps a lot of people away from track drifting is that there's usually an audience, and it's not that easy to learn in front of so many people. If I could, I would go to the track every week. And that's another thing. Sometimes drifting is a spur of the moment thing, and there isn't always a track open. And there aren't to many tracks that are less than 10 min away. I don't like street drifting for the 'illegal' thrill it provides. If anything, that's my main reason for not wanting to do it.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by David48
I'm not trying to come off as some street douche, but for the past 7 months I was under the impression that you had to have a license to drift at places like Desoto, so for me it's been far easier to go to an empty parking lot with my brother in the dead of night to learn how to drift.
try asking/searching about that before you assume

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At one particular place we used to go to a lot, there were 0 chances of crashing, an insignificant chance of getting caught, and it was all in good fun.
what if your tie rod snaps and you cant leave... tow truck... lucky if he doesnt call on you.

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One thing that keeps a lot of people away from track drifting is that there's usually an audience, and it's not that easy to learn in front of so many people.
lamest excuse ive ever heard. everyone sucks when they start, if you feel like people are staring at you, get over it. no one goes to desoto to watch amazing driving, they go with friends to watch people drift and learn. sure there is people who talk shit, but you get that at PRO events too, so you'll never escape it.

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If I could, I would go to the track every week. And that's another thing. Sometimes drifting is a spur of the moment thing, and there isn't always a track open. And there aren't to many tracks that are less than 10 min away. I don't like street drifting for the 'illegal' thrill it provides. If anything, that's my main reason for not wanting to do it.
self control, learn it. we never even had a chance to have a track day before, and when it started, it was 3-4 months between. now they are once a month and at different locations once a month so there is no reason you cant save it for the track if you were truly not wanting to do it illegally.

I understand some of your reasons, but when there was no events and I did street stuff, I learned the hard way from accidents, tickets, nearly going to jail, and then seeing others do the same. What I say won't change your mind, but I hope you are prepared for what could happen.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Well I'm going to be getting a license and hopefully a job next month, so it'll be a lot easier for me to make it to track events, and I'll be able to afford them. I really don't like street drifting, but it was the only way I could do it. I'm going to Desoto this month to watch how it all happens, and hopefully the next time I'll be able to drive.
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Originally Posted by David48
I was under the impression that you had to have a license to drift at places like Desoto
Umm... I dont think you even need a drivers license...soo yha... If your under 18 you need a guardian to sign, money and a car thats it.
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