Down With The Fast Drifters
we need new drifting mods or something...This is getting ridiculous.
Do not come on here bashing like you are doing. If you have a logical point to make, do it in an orderly fashion.
Do not come on here bashing like you are doing. If you have a logical point to make, do it in an orderly fashion.
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Originally Posted by POLE-POSITION
i say BObby just give it up untill you know what the fuck you are doing. i don't care about your experience with any series. its not our series plus the fact is if your series does work out that means us drifting on ovals most of the time.....i think you said that the reason this idea came to be was you have oval tracks that arent making money....so you are more looking to bring in money to these tracks(you get your cut) then you are about drifting.....so maybe you are not the guy should be setting up drifting events.
ps. i fucking hate rednecks and ovals......and i would have to deal with both of those even if your events worked out correctly.
ps. i fucking hate rednecks and ovals......and i would have to deal with both of those even if your events worked out correctly.
/thread Clifford FTW
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Why does everybody seem to want a martyr running events these days? When DGTrials was king of FL they started charging quite a bit per event but nobody really cared for a while b/c the events were good. They (organizers) all make money and would like to make more money. Sure, some are in it for the sport first (calm down Rob) but nobody would turn down a few extra dollars if it came their way. In reality, why should they? They work hard on their own time after their day jobs and real-world responsibilities to bring us drift events. Oh no, they actually want something in return for all the hard work and effort!!!
I'm not saying we/you should support the fast drift series. It looked like poorly run crap to me from the start and I "boycotted" their events based on my own observations. I just think it's ridiculous to bring motives into the game. I guess I feel this way b/c some of my best friends are 100x more passionate about drifting than 99% of the people on this board and their events had almost NO turnout from anybody but locals. Ter-Tech lost quite a bit of money at almost every event until they started raising prices…they broke even once or twice but then everybody bitched about the cost increase and stopped showing up. Lo and behold, they were losing money again…everybody wanted a martyr. Well boo-freaking-hoo. You pay hard to play hard. Deal or die.
Bottom line, who cares what their motives are? If the events are good and we're having a good time; let them make a few bucks. If you’re not showing up b/c you think their run like crap, fine. Don’t bring the organizer’s motives into the picture though unless they are out to rob/harm us. IMO, that kind of attitude was a big reason why everybody stopped showing up to some of the best events FL ever had (DGT). Actually, it’s true…there are plenty of posts in plain txt on this forum of people explaining their not showing up on account of the cost. Now that we have cheap events people complain about the venues. Lose – lose situation if you ask me until people stop bitching and start driving (shut up and drive?). I feel like a bit of a hypocrite having not attended any of Rob’s events but financial obligations (hospital and other bills) keep me away although soon enough I will show back up…most people have seen me at every Ter-Tech event and most DGTrials events and anybody that’s taken the time to talk to me knows how I feel about drifting. I’ve even ventured out of the state on more than one occasion for events (not saying I deserve a BJ or anything for my past efforts, I just don’t want people to think I’m one of those whiners that’s never actually taken their car on a track).
FL fail? No…not to me. FL attitude = piss poor…FACT.
Damn I typed a lot and will likely get flamed for it. Whatever.
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Why does everybody seem to want a martyr running events these days? When DGTrials was king of FL they started charging quite a bit per event but nobody really cared for a while b/c the events were good. They (organizers) all make money and would like to make more money. Sure, some are in it for the sport first (calm down Rob) but nobody would turn down a few extra dollars if it came their way. In reality, why should they? They work hard on their own time after their day jobs and real-world responsibilities to bring us drift events. Oh no, they actually want something in return for all the hard work and effort!!!

I'm not saying we/you should support the fast drift series. It looked like poorly run crap to me from the start and I "boycotted" their events based on my own observations. I just think it's ridiculous to bring motives into the game. I guess I feel this way b/c some of my best friends are 100x more passionate about drifting than 99% of the people on this board and their events had almost NO turnout from anybody but locals. Ter-Tech lost quite a bit of money at almost every event until they started raising prices…they broke even once or twice but then everybody bitched about the cost increase and stopped showing up. Lo and behold, they were losing money again…everybody wanted a martyr. Well boo-freaking-hoo. You pay hard to play hard. Deal or die.
Bottom line, who cares what their motives are? If the events are good and we're having a good time; let them make a few bucks. If you’re not showing up b/c you think their run like crap, fine. Don’t bring the organizer’s motives into the picture though unless they are out to rob/harm us. IMO, that kind of attitude was a big reason why everybody stopped showing up to some of the best events FL ever had (DGT). Actually, it’s true…there are plenty of posts in plain txt on this forum of people explaining their not showing up on account of the cost. Now that we have cheap events people complain about the venues. Lose – lose situation if you ask me until people stop bitching and start driving (shut up and drive?). I feel like a bit of a hypocrite having not attended any of Rob’s events but financial obligations (hospital and other bills) keep me away although soon enough I will show back up…most people have seen me at every Ter-Tech event and most DGTrials events and anybody that’s taken the time to talk to me knows how I feel about drifting. I’ve even ventured out of the state on more than one occasion for events (not saying I deserve a BJ or anything for my past efforts, I just don’t want people to think I’m one of those whiners that’s never actually taken their car on a track).
FL fail? No…not to me. FL attitude = piss poor…FACT.

Damn I typed a lot and will likely get flamed for it. Whatever.

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Originally Posted by Anthony Macaluso
lots of excellent points
I applaud Bobby & Team's determination. I would be happier if they landed safer places to play, 100% less alcohol sponsor and drifting-only events.
Although Terr-tech and Shift-Lock are, in a way, competitors to DGtrials, we are all still on the same team for the advancement of the sport. I still want Rob and Harri & crew to be safe and do well; the same goes for DST.
If you boycott, base it on dissatisfaciton of the events and not guessing at the motives of the organizers. In other words, +1 to TonyMac's post.
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BTTS, STFU&D

BTTS, STFU&D
if you dont know the whole deal with FSF changing its cost and proceedure after telling bobby everything was SET 2 days before taht, then STFU and boycott. we dotn need you to run, we get mroe track time w/o you, enjoy the streets.
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Originally Posted by Anthony Macaluso
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Sure, some are in it for the sport first (calm down Rob) but nobody would turn down a few extra dollars if it came their way.
Sure, some are in it for the sport first (calm down Rob) but nobody would turn down a few extra dollars if it came their way.
Hahaha some people know me to well!!!!



. hey he does have a good point, why try to hold events when you dont know how to, or dont know how to plan ahead.

