WHY_NOT???

anyone like it

Jonas

no

Loren

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't see anything wrong with it. You'd have to set the car up to be pretty unsafe on the street to do it effectively (bumping up rear swaybar stiffness, rear damping and rear tire pressure at an event might allow for a dual-purpose setup), and it would take a much different technique than RWD, but it would be just as fun. I actually think it would take MORE driver skill to be good at drifting a front driver.

I used to drive a Saturn that I had set up for autocrossing. In dialing out as much understeer as possibly, I had a car that "almost" oversteered. Lifting off the throttle on corner entry would initiate rear wheel drift, and I can't tell you how many people I had take autocross runs in my car and spin it because they expected it to understeer... and it oversteered. I found a few autocross course 2nd gear sweepers that lent themselves to a true 4-wheel drift in that car.

Power oversteer is about the only thing you can't to in a FWD car.

Good luck talking the powers-that-are-becoming in the local drift scene into allowing a FWD car into one of their events.

JapDanny

Drop throttle oversteer is possible in a FWD car .

Many things are possible in a FWD car .


Can you contrinue that drop throttle oversteer around a 300ft diameter circle 5-6 times ?


/end story

Loren

No, but you won't see a 300 ft circle at SPC, either.

The type of drift event that is likely to be seen locally, especially at the small SPC site, would lend itself well to the type of drift that a properly set up FWD car is capable of.

I say if someone wants to try to drift a FWD car, let them. As long as they aren't hindering your event in any way, let them try. If they can't do it, they probably won't want to try again. If they CAN do it... you just might be impressed.

What's happening here in the Bay area ain't D1, loosen up a little.

JapDanny

I'm not saying it isnt possible .

I just dont like calling a drop throttle overstter setup car a "Drift" car . It isnt .

Matt Vassallo

dude

i will gladly let a FWD car come out !!!

let him have fun, let him learn. he'll realize that FR is alot better to start drifting.

i've seen videos of guys FF in japan, it's pretty nuts and well, i buy it.

and lift throttle oversteer is nuts and fun. just cause you cant power oversteer doesnt mean you cant drift.

but the definition of drift that many of the kids are into now is just the throttle on oversteer kind.

Garage Battle

this can be effectively argued all day long


the drift that most of us consider here, for the most part, is a finese and display of controlled RWD horsepower.

encouraging FF drift would be like saying t-ball is as good as hardball. same idea, similar principal, but totally different ball game. seperates the newbs from the uppers.

Geoffrie

At the last autocross at zepherhills "the rental" a fwd escord was oversteering like mad due to a big sway bar in the rear. He was trying for time too and not pulling the e-brake or anything like that...

Matt Vassallo

I'll gladly encourage FF drift! if 30 civics pay and register for dday i'll be happy, because that means they are more about it than the 240sx folk are