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We're talking about a street car with a 100 shot on it. I agree that everything needs tuning, I also understand what that means, but for what he was trying to do, my suggestion would work fine. He was only getting about a half second out of his kit because the bottle was always cold. His turbos are going on now, so I guess this is a moot point. I agree that more power can be made with turbos over nitrous, pick up any magazine, that's hard to argue, my point was that the only turbo kit I found for my car was $4395 and the projected ET was the same, if not slower, than I am running now. Who knows, maybe in the future I'll feel like spending alot of money on a Buick Roadmaster, but with everything in my life right now, it just doesn't make sense.
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Originally posted by BigBadBuick
We're talking about a street car with a 100 shot on it. I agree that everything needs tuning, I also understand what that means, but for what he was trying to do, my suggestion would work fine. He was only getting about a half second out of his kit because the bottle was always cold. His turbos are going on now, so I guess this is a moot point. I agree that more power can be made with turbos over nitrous, pick up any magazine, that's hard to argue, my point was that the only turbo kit I found for my car was $4395 and the projected ET was the same, if not slower, than I am running now. Who knows, maybe in the future I'll feel like spending alot of money on a Buick Roadmaster, but with everything in my life right now, it just doesn't make sense.
We're talking about a street car with a 100 shot on it. I agree that everything needs tuning, I also understand what that means, but for what he was trying to do, my suggestion would work fine. He was only getting about a half second out of his kit because the bottle was always cold. His turbos are going on now, so I guess this is a moot point. I agree that more power can be made with turbos over nitrous, pick up any magazine, that's hard to argue, my point was that the only turbo kit I found for my car was $4395 and the projected ET was the same, if not slower, than I am running now. Who knows, maybe in the future I'll feel like spending alot of money on a Buick Roadmaster, but with everything in my life right now, it just doesn't make sense.
You spent all that turbo money on one glorious day.
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Originally posted by Fast240Z
That might work, but I have a better idea. Go buy a real bottle heater and put a gauge in your car. Then you will be able to regulate your pressure(a very important factor!) any time. I feel people think when you buy a nitrous kit that's all you need. If you want inconsistant gains of low power then just buy the kit.
If you want to take full advantage of your kit then you have to spend some more money and time tuning it. Yes, tuning your nitrous kit. I am not talking about changing the 'pills' to up the shot, I am talking about adjusting fuel pressure, bottle pressure, spark timing and spark plugs. Sure you can stumble into a good tune up, but I wouldn't count on it. I have been down the track more than a couple times trying new setting trying to get more power out of my car.
I want to add in a little disclaimer about the following statements. I am talking about going fast, not 13's or even 11's. I mean fast! I know we all can't afford to make our daily drivers into all out beasts, but want I mean is if you can't do something the right way don't do it!
I also wanted to add my two cents in on the nitrous/turbo debate. Everyone knows I use nitrous, but I will tell you that my car will eventually be turbocharged. Both are great for adding gobbs of power, but I feel when you start to really push the limits of performance, turbos come out ahead of nitrous. Sure if you are only spraying 200 then your motor might last a long time. What I am talking about is when you are trying to make over 1000hp and expect to stay together.
All anyone has to do is pick up Race pages or FSC and look how fast the turbo cars are going and how many nitrous guys are going to turbos. Those who stay with nitrous are going to cry and beg for rule changes to make the turbo cars slower. That's because the nitrous racers are leaving there motors on the track trying to go faster and the turbo racers are keeping there motors together all season.
If you don't believe me that's ok. Just let's bring this topic up again in two years and see what has happened.
To recap: Nitrous works great and is cheaper to get into, but is harder on your motor when you really lean on it. Turbos also work great and are easier on everything, but have a higher start up cost. You chose your poison.
Mark
That might work, but I have a better idea. Go buy a real bottle heater and put a gauge in your car. Then you will be able to regulate your pressure(a very important factor!) any time. I feel people think when you buy a nitrous kit that's all you need. If you want inconsistant gains of low power then just buy the kit.
If you want to take full advantage of your kit then you have to spend some more money and time tuning it. Yes, tuning your nitrous kit. I am not talking about changing the 'pills' to up the shot, I am talking about adjusting fuel pressure, bottle pressure, spark timing and spark plugs. Sure you can stumble into a good tune up, but I wouldn't count on it. I have been down the track more than a couple times trying new setting trying to get more power out of my car.
I want to add in a little disclaimer about the following statements. I am talking about going fast, not 13's or even 11's. I mean fast! I know we all can't afford to make our daily drivers into all out beasts, but want I mean is if you can't do something the right way don't do it!
I also wanted to add my two cents in on the nitrous/turbo debate. Everyone knows I use nitrous, but I will tell you that my car will eventually be turbocharged. Both are great for adding gobbs of power, but I feel when you start to really push the limits of performance, turbos come out ahead of nitrous. Sure if you are only spraying 200 then your motor might last a long time. What I am talking about is when you are trying to make over 1000hp and expect to stay together.
All anyone has to do is pick up Race pages or FSC and look how fast the turbo cars are going and how many nitrous guys are going to turbos. Those who stay with nitrous are going to cry and beg for rule changes to make the turbo cars slower. That's because the nitrous racers are leaving there motors on the track trying to go faster and the turbo racers are keeping there motors together all season.
If you don't believe me that's ok. Just let's bring this topic up again in two years and see what has happened.
To recap: Nitrous works great and is cheaper to get into, but is harder on your motor when you really lean on it. Turbos also work great and are easier on everything, but have a higher start up cost. You chose your poison.
Mark
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Originally posted by TheShow50h
Excellent post btw.
Excellent post btw.
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240z,
At the power level you are talking about, then yes Turbo's are better than n2o. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view most top power adder classes will be turbo'd, seems kind of borring to me..
For what I'm doing, a bottle will suit me fine...
At the power level you are talking about, then yes Turbo's are better than n2o. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view most top power adder classes will be turbo'd, seems kind of borring to me..
For what I'm doing, a bottle will suit me fine...
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Originally posted by Strokd85
240z,
At the power level you are talking about, then yes Turbo's are better than n2o. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view most top power adder classes will be turbo'd, seems kind of borring to me..
For what I'm doing, a bottle will suit me fine...
240z,
At the power level you are talking about, then yes Turbo's are better than n2o. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view most top power adder classes will be turbo'd, seems kind of borring to me..
For what I'm doing, a bottle will suit me fine...
Mark
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