buell or cbr?
Originally posted by "Dave"
I dont know what your talking about, Harley has had the VR 1000 for years now, and its running AMA competitive races
Just some specs on it un-modified
Engine Type: 4-stroke, water-cooled, fuel-injected, dual overhead camshafts, four-valves per cylinder, V-twin
Displacement: 60.78 cubic inches, 996cc
Bore: 3.858 inches
Stroke: 2.600 inches
Fuel Injector Type: Magnetti Marnelli
Throttle bore size: 54mm
Compression ratio: 11.:6:1
Lubricating system: Dry sump
Torque: 100 ft pounds @ 9000rpm
Horsepower: 150 @ 10,000rpm
Oh Im sorry was that 150hp, oh wait, what does the gixxer 1000 put out, I think its a mearly 140hp?
damn he has a point
Originally Posted by svtjesse
Originally Posted by BodyRollin'
deffinately a CBR HARLEY DAVIDSON cant make tjeir FORTE' bike (cruiser) well how the hell are they sposed to make a race bike lol
Just some specs on it un-modified
Engine Type: 4-stroke, water-cooled, fuel-injected, dual overhead camshafts, four-valves per cylinder, V-twin
Displacement: 60.78 cubic inches, 996cc
Bore: 3.858 inches
Stroke: 2.600 inches
Fuel Injector Type: Magnetti Marnelli
Throttle bore size: 54mm
Compression ratio: 11.:6:1
Lubricating system: Dry sump
Torque: 100 ft pounds @ 9000rpm
Horsepower: 150 @ 10,000rpm
Oh Im sorry was that 150hp, oh wait, what does the gixxer 1000 put out, I think its a mearly 140hp?

yeah but you guys forget ownin a harley is like ownin a classic vette or something sure it is a good bike but it is deffinately a weekend thing you spend all week fixin it so you can ride it on the weekend.
harley davidson can be summed up inone statement in my opinion......"HOLY OUT DATED TECHNOLOGY BATMAN"
besides reguardless of the power that it makes it still isnt as fast so what difference does it make?
and dont compare the AMA bike to regular bikes like apples to oranges, harley or not you can BUILD damn near any bike to be competitive.
harley davidson, the flatulent sound of a ricer now available on 2 wheels
harley davidson can be summed up inone statement in my opinion......"HOLY OUT DATED TECHNOLOGY BATMAN"
besides reguardless of the power that it makes it still isnt as fast so what difference does it make?
and dont compare the AMA bike to regular bikes like apples to oranges, harley or not you can BUILD damn near any bike to be competitive.
harley davidson, the flatulent sound of a ricer now available on 2 wheels
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Originally posted by "BodyRollin'"
yeah but you guys forget ownin a harley is like ownin a classic vette or something sure it is a good bike but it is deffinately a weekend thing you spend all week fixin it so you can ride it on the weekend.
harley davidson can be summed up inone statement in my opinion......"HOLY OUT DATED TECHNOLOGY BATMAN"
besides reguardless of the power that it makes it still isnt as fast so what difference does it make?
and dont compare the AMA bike to regular bikes like apples to oranges, harley or not you can BUILD damn near any bike to be competitive.
harley davidson, the flatulent sound of a ricer now available on 2 wheels
yeah but you guys forget ownin a harley is like ownin a classic vette or something sure it is a good bike but it is deffinately a weekend thing you spend all week fixin it so you can ride it on the weekend.
harley davidson can be summed up inone statement in my opinion......"HOLY OUT DATED TECHNOLOGY BATMAN"
besides reguardless of the power that it makes it still isnt as fast so what difference does it make?
and dont compare the AMA bike to regular bikes like apples to oranges, harley or not you can BUILD damn near any bike to be competitive.
harley davidson, the flatulent sound of a ricer now available on 2 wheels
Also you said that
cant make tjeir FORTE' bike (cruiser) well how the hell are they sposed to make a race bike lol
And Harley has a wonderful heratige of racing, if not for them, we would not even have sport bikes today, Harley was the first sportbike inventor.
Oh and how in the hell is there Technology out dated?? Where are you getting your info?? Mr. Rogers??? DOHC Fuel Injected motors are outta date now???
Jesse
Originally posted by "svtjesse"
Ok First have you ever owned a Harley??? Proubly not, my uncle, my dad, and many of his close friends own Harleys, and they brake less than most sportbikes, its all in how you ride them. Given the older Harleys(Pan and Knuckle head) were braking down alot, but that is because they were made 2 and 3 decades before you and I were born, same thing with all cars that age, they brake shit, jsut cause of age. Now the EVO motor, made in the early 90's, what the problem with it?? Nothing, it works fine, but your to ignorant to know that, you just go by what others say, and what you have heard, that would be like me saying cause the '76 hondas were POS and slow as hell, Honda will never make a fast car!!!!!
Also you said that
, well I jsut proved you wrong with the above post, they make a race bike, and its avalible to the public, in AMA race ready trim, but you do have to shell out 20K+
And Harley has a wonderful heratige of racing, if not for them, we would not even have sport bikes today, Harley was the first sportbike inventor.
Oh and how in the hell is there Technology out dated?? Where are you getting your info?? Mr. Rogers??? DOHC Fuel Injected motors are outta date now???
Jesse
Originally Posted by BodyRollin'
yeah but you guys forget ownin a harley is like ownin a classic vette or something sure it is a good bike but it is deffinately a weekend thing you spend all week fixin it so you can ride it on the weekend.
harley davidson can be summed up inone statement in my opinion......"HOLY OUT DATED TECHNOLOGY BATMAN"
besides reguardless of the power that it makes it still isnt as fast so what difference does it make?
and dont compare the AMA bike to regular bikes like apples to oranges, harley or not you can BUILD damn near any bike to be competitive.
harley davidson, the flatulent sound of a ricer now available on 2 wheels
harley davidson can be summed up inone statement in my opinion......"HOLY OUT DATED TECHNOLOGY BATMAN"
besides reguardless of the power that it makes it still isnt as fast so what difference does it make?
and dont compare the AMA bike to regular bikes like apples to oranges, harley or not you can BUILD damn near any bike to be competitive.
harley davidson, the flatulent sound of a ricer now available on 2 wheels

Also you said that
cant make tjeir FORTE' bike (cruiser) well how the hell are they sposed to make a race bike lol
And Harley has a wonderful heratige of racing, if not for them, we would not even have sport bikes today, Harley was the first sportbike inventor.
Oh and how in the hell is there Technology out dated?? Where are you getting your info?? Mr. Rogers??? DOHC Fuel Injected motors are outta date now???
Jesse
yeah get me jesse
i was referring to how long it took harley to come full circle and start changing their bikes. they ran the same design forever, i do like the harley v rod and other stuff but i get so sick of hearing about how "bad ass" harleys are gimmie a break
yeah im just regurgitating what i have heard from others, what the fuck ever, i know plenty about bikes, i am just not interested in cruiser bikes. they are too loud, slow, and inefficient.
bikes are supposed to be light and harleys are heavy as shit. if you dont know someone dont assume they are ignorant, fuck tard (not insulting you, i just wanted to say fuck tard
) im far from ignorant. someone asked buell or cbr, to which i answered CBR ecause buell bikes dont have the R&D or experience that honda does in making sports bikes. maybe i was a lil hard on the harleys but perhaps it was just subconcious venting from the hour and a half i spent stuck behind about 200 or so of them this past sunday that were on a bike rally on 75 headded south doin like 50 on a road that has a 70 mph speed limit
turned a 2 hr road trip in to a 3 1/2 hr journey
harley tryin to make sport bikes is like ducatti tryin to make a cruiser
pointless
i was referring to how long it took harley to come full circle and start changing their bikes. they ran the same design forever, i do like the harley v rod and other stuff but i get so sick of hearing about how "bad ass" harleys are gimmie a break
yeah im just regurgitating what i have heard from others, what the fuck ever, i know plenty about bikes, i am just not interested in cruiser bikes. they are too loud, slow, and inefficient.
bikes are supposed to be light and harleys are heavy as shit. if you dont know someone dont assume they are ignorant, fuck tard (not insulting you, i just wanted to say fuck tard
) im far from ignorant. someone asked buell or cbr, to which i answered CBR ecause buell bikes dont have the R&D or experience that honda does in making sports bikes. maybe i was a lil hard on the harleys but perhaps it was just subconcious venting from the hour and a half i spent stuck behind about 200 or so of them this past sunday that were on a bike rally on 75 headded south doin like 50 on a road that has a 70 mph speed limit
turned a 2 hr road trip in to a 3 1/2 hr journey
harley tryin to make sport bikes is like ducatti tryin to make a cruiser
pointless
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Originally posted by "BodyRollin'"
yeah get me jesse
i was referring to how long it took harley to come full circle and start changing their bikes. they ran the same design forever, i do like the harley v rod and other stuff but i get so sick of hearing about how "bad ass" harleys are gimmie a break
yeah im just regurgitating what i have heard from others, what the fuck ever, i know plenty about bikes, i am just not interested in cruiser bikes. they are too loud, slow, and inefficient.
bikes are supposed to be light and harleys are heavy as shit. if you dont know someone dont assume they are ignorant, fuck tard (not insulting you, i just wanted to say fuck tard
) im far from ignorant. someone asked buell or cbr, to which i answered CBR ecause buell bikes dont have the R&D or experience that honda does in making sports bikes. maybe i was a lil hard on the harleys but perhaps it was just subconcious venting from the hour and a half i spent stuck behind about 200 or so of them this past sunday that were on a bike rally on 75 headded south doin like 50 on a road that has a 70 mph speed limit
turned a 2 hr road trip in to a 3 1/2 hr journey
harley tryin to make sport bikes is like ducatti tryin to make a cruiser
pointless
yeah get me jesse
i was referring to how long it took harley to come full circle and start changing their bikes. they ran the same design forever, i do like the harley v rod and other stuff but i get so sick of hearing about how "bad ass" harleys are gimmie a break
yeah im just regurgitating what i have heard from others, what the fuck ever, i know plenty about bikes, i am just not interested in cruiser bikes. they are too loud, slow, and inefficient.
bikes are supposed to be light and harleys are heavy as shit. if you dont know someone dont assume they are ignorant, fuck tard (not insulting you, i just wanted to say fuck tard
) im far from ignorant. someone asked buell or cbr, to which i answered CBR ecause buell bikes dont have the R&D or experience that honda does in making sports bikes. maybe i was a lil hard on the harleys but perhaps it was just subconcious venting from the hour and a half i spent stuck behind about 200 or so of them this past sunday that were on a bike rally on 75 headded south doin like 50 on a road that has a 70 mph speed limit
turned a 2 hr road trip in to a 3 1/2 hr journey
harley tryin to make sport bikes is like ducatti tryin to make a cruiser
pointless
LOL, Ok so now your going to say that Buell Doesnt have Updated tech, they dont have a good R&D Program?? Once again, I would love to meet who you are getting your information from??? Take the new Firebolt and Lightning for example, they carry the oil tank in teh swingarm, and the gas in hte frame, all to centralize more weight, and keep the fuel from sloshing around in turns, name me one other streetbike manufacture that does that, wait I dont know of any, must be that out dated tech that buell is using
. Also they braking system is one of the strongest, and lightest on any sportbike produced at this time and they have the shortest wheelbase..Erik Buell has also been into racing since the 70's, he built his own bike because the others on the market wernt good enough, well that inturn led to him creating his own Sportbike company in 1993 only to be bought out by the worlds largest Motorcycle manufactor 3 years later, given they are a fairly new company, but I would not go as far as calling then outdated, or undertechnoligzied ( is that even a word
).As for Harley comming full circle, why change something that works great and is your number one seller, I mean that would be like for going, weve made the F150 for 25 years, and every year its been the top selling pick up, but you know what were jsut going to stop making it cause its had all these little problems, no where would that make since??
yeah im just regurgitating what i have heard from others, what the fuck ever, i know plenty about bikes, i am just not interested in cruiser bikes. they are too loud, slow, and inefficient.
bikes are supposed to be light and harleys are heavy as shit. if you dont know someone dont assume they are ignorant
Anyways as for you getting stuck behind a buch of harley's, get used to, your going to be seeing it alot more as Harley was the top selling motorcycle maker for awhile, I mean shit most of the guy out there have been riding longer than you have the least you can do is show some respect and let them enjoy there ride instead of trying to rush them.
Anyhow, Im tired, im out.
Jesse
Originally posted by "svtjesse"
LOL, Ok so now your going to say that Buell Doesnt have Updated tech, they dont have a good R&D Program
LOL, Ok so now your going to say that Buell Doesnt have Updated tech, they dont have a good R&D Program
Originally posted by "svtjesse"
As for that, I never said you did not know anything about "bikes" I just said you know shit about Harley in general, but here you are cutting them down, proubly never have ridden one, never owned one, but yet you say they are slow, loud, heavy, POS's, again you are letting you ignorance about the subject show, have you ever heard a stock Harley run, with the exhaust Harley put on it??? Its quiter than my friends TLR with stock exhaust.
As for that, I never said you did not know anything about "bikes" I just said you know shit about Harley in general, but here you are cutting them down, proubly never have ridden one, never owned one, but yet you say they are slow, loud, heavy, POS's, again you are letting you ignorance about the subject show, have you ever heard a stock Harley run, with the exhaust Harley put on it??? Its quiter than my friends TLR with stock exhaust.
if i were gonna have a cruiser bike i would rather have the honda VTX or a west coast chopper (VTX because they are actually pretty quick and WCC because they are just DAMN sexy) but for the most part i just dont like cruisers of any sort. ESPECIALLY not harleys
and as far as the "if it aint broken why fix it" im not sayin that they shoulda stopped makin them just atleast offered up some bikes that were different even if they still kept their original one in production as well.
Originally posted by "svtjesse"
the least you can do is show some respect and let them enjoy there ride instead of trying to rush them.
the least you can do is show some respect and let them enjoy there ride instead of trying to rush them.
Originally posted by "svtjesse"
Anyhow, Im tired, im out.
Anyhow, Im tired, im out.
im sorry if these quotes dont work right I suck at HTML
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heh heh indeed, hey arent you the jesse that built the V8 RX7?
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