Well hey explain to me how the line changes when you are on the track by yourself. Cause regardless of the fact that there are several diff lines you can take, there is always a way to hit every apex, if you miss it, it was your mistake... the Track God didn't move the track under you to put you in a diff spot...

No I didn't... you said the line changes... I say the lines are there and there is an optimal line to hit every apex... a far cry from a line "changing" how do you even explain that? How do you then interpret changing your line in mid corner???

This should be interersting,,, Hell take a brids eye view of the track... draw the optimal line... let me know when it moves? OK Then let me know when you realize a rider can miss his intended line into a turn...

Simple science... unless your are failing to be clear with what you are trying to say...

 

I don't doubt it, I seen a moped pass a 911 on around town too... several seagulls flying about made the pass too ... you took my comment out of context... I didn't say the guy on the motard (riding in expert class) was the fastest because of his bike... he was simply taking the candy away from a select few on what most would think a faster bike on any track... not always the case as is not always the case vice versa...
And I made the comment to encourage the fellow motard rider into going out there and having some fun... he may just go out there and take the candy away from many that think they are fast by buying a "faster" bike


I really don't care one way or another to go do that. And I recommend you dont either... it is a terrible way to prove a point with a failed attempt of using the proven scientific method... there is no other way to gather meaningful data...

Calvin, I was just offering a diff point of view to determine a more scientific approach to your scenario of same skill level rider on diff bikes. There are some controls that need to be put in place that will exploit the pros and cons of each machine. Controls such as tires, a small track, a large track, street trim vs race spec bikes... etc...

Simply to eliminate comments as you made below... I know the track record was set on a superbike. You need not convince me of that. But I'd like to see someone try on a race spec Motard, oh I don't know say with a 990cc motor capable of pushing it into the 150hp territory to see where the laws of physics puts a sub 300lb motard with 150hp vs a 300+lbs superbike with 200hp...

The fact is... it's never been done... so how could anyone be so sure it's impossible? IMO, it'd be a hell of cool event to attend... And I'd volunteer as a regular rider on each to see how the diff riding styles affect rider speed & confidence... I'd put money that some riders may go faster on either bike.

 

what the hell is everyone bitching about now, im to lazy to read whats going on, lol.... something about race lines?

Oh and for the record, the track record was set by geoff may, on his 600, not the 1000

 

U stated; There was No passing on the inside, just on the outside of the Novice group, Which is True.

I Stated;Through Corners 6 through 9...Remember, the inside becomes the outside & the outside becomes the inside..At times!

Nothing is mention about lines... Inside & Outside is in reference to the 'Inside & Outside' of the Track...So, Are U really Passing on The Inside Of The Track or the outside of the Track !....?

Then U Start with a Attempt to Twist Words and throw me off with"Brids Eye View" LOL...Which Is all Good, For a Post Count I guess..

It's A Riddle...




Now, For 'The Motard' Vs. 'Sport Bike'...debacle!

I Said; If both riders are *=/equal* in ability/Skill. A Sport bike will Chew-up a Motard @ JGP. I sure Hope U're Attempt to de-bate this isn't what Hurts!

I Also! Put out there, For the Rider who would like to go ride @ JGP on his motard that there are plenty of riders out there riding Motards! And, Yes! There are Motards Riders that will take 'The Candy' from some 'Sport Bike' Riders! Was This A Big Secret!




Can't Wait To See U @ Both..

 

im always slow on the north run... those streets scare the shit out of me. i think i actually did one with you last year K9, i was on a white 600rr that kept leaking radi fluid.

 

wrong...try again...he was on the EMGO GSXR1K Superbike.....record before that was an MV Agusta F4.......
Team M4 EMGO Suzuki’s May Breaks Lap Record While Testing At JenningsGP News Article // RoadracingWorld.com

 

I remember U pull up to the Marathon...T-Shirt No Gear! lol

It look like your bike was Duct Taped Togeher...LOL

U ask, about Trail braking @ Shamrocks! It was a Ride with JDR, Cecil,Jeremy, Wolfey,......Even Raul was There!..LOL

I have the Pix when we stop @ the little Corner Store Off Of ***** **

I'll Post it up, Once I find it!

 

That's What I thought, also.

Chad, Just got off the Phone with Joe.....Sorry, To hear what happen on the Trail.

 

what happened to chad????

 

Nothing Bad! It was About A Ride, awhile bac...That I'm sure u know about...I just never heard of the outcome.