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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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I am sick of people posting more bashing stuff about me so I am just going to explain the whole situation of what took place on Sunday's North Run ride. I posted a ride for Sunday here on TR, TSB and Streetknights. A total of 4 people informed me in some way either PM, a post or a phone call they were showing up. Many times @ the Marathon where we meet up there are other groups that show up to go on their own rides. When I got to the Marathon on Sunday there was a group of around 20 bikes being led by Steve from Seductive Cycles which he leads many rides with their group.

I have not got along w/ a few of SC's members including Cammo who has told me in the past that since he feels that I am full of myself he was not riding with me anymore. So when I saw the large group I thought they were doing their own North run since NO ONE informed me either through a post, PM or a conversation @ the Marathon that they were riding w/ me. I am a firm believer that if you are brining more than 10 bikes to someones ride you should atleast tell them or god forbid ask if it is cool. So like I said none of this took place.

I left the marathon w/ my group and did notice eventually the SC guys were following us. I rode my route exactly like I always do...I did not try to lose anyone on purpose. Every time I got to a stop sign I saw my group was there and moved on.

My ride is very controlled and if I pass a truck or a car I make sure it is safe. Where I made the pass in question approaching a corner you can see through the trees if there is anything approaching, but this is a totally different conversation.

Back to this...so I get to the Hess and Steve & Chris approached me from SC and were calling me an asshole, fag etc... and why did I leave them behind. I informed them that they were not on my ride, nor did they make any intentions of letting me know why they were there. At that point if they would of approached me like normal humanbeigs we could of cleared the whole problem and continued w/ a joined ride, but when I am attacked verbally I am not to friendly.

So the rest of the day went well, everyone rode just great. When I got home I went to the SC site because I knew for sure they would all be bashing me and I would have to try to dfend myself. Well after a lot of back and forth posts and PMs the situation has now been cleard and there are no bad feelings between myself and SC. Chris (ctate) even invited me for their ride the next day.

The bottom line is people need to communicate their intentions and not type shit before they know all the facts. Whats funny about this whole situation is that they truly were not there to ride on my North Run. They had made a mistake and they thought they were crashing another TSB members ride which was 1 hour later!!!!!!

So if anyone has a problem w/ me instead of posting stupid shit on here like a damn child PM me.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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its all ur fault mannn!!! jping.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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I love the inter web and all the stupid people that post on it.






why in the fuck would s/c members want to go on your ride, when dog bone is there to lead them?


I'm a little in shock that they didn't all go to the stunt show... guess the club is growing up a bit. good for them.


weak...
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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I think if you post something on the net to meet somewhere and people show and then follow you at the same pace you would know that they where riding with you. Its not like you lost us in the first half hour. We ALL rode in a group for a good hour or even longer.

Its cool if there was a misunderstanding. But I think you still a hypocrite for the fact your always talking gear gear gear and ride safe. But on your own ride you will pass a truck in a blind 90!

I dont care about the fact you might have not wanted us to ride. But you never asked. You stuck with your boys and then walk up to each of them to let them know you where ready to leave... When you took off so did we. So when you seen a line of 20 bikes behind you, you didnt think we where riding with you?

I dont have a problem with you. I have a problem with what you say and then what you do. If you only want a few people to ride with talk to them on a private note a set up your ride with out posting it on a fourm! Do you know how many poeple read your post and never post ANYTHING on any thread! A shit load. So dont say "hey make sure you tell me your going" Its says show up and lets ride.

Dont make a thread about a ride unless you expect others to show with out posting.....

Dont talk so much shit about the way others ride... When you do the same as they do...

Then people wont have a problem with you....
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Drewster
I think if you post something on the net to meet somewhere and people show and then follow you at the same pace you would know that they where riding with you. Its not like you lost us in the first half hour. We ALL rode in a group for a good hour or even longer.

Its cool if there was a misunderstanding. But I think you still a hypocrite for the fact your always talking gear gear gear and ride safe. But on your own ride you will pass a truck in a blind 90!

I dont care about the fact you might have not wanted us to ride. But you never asked. You stuck with your boys and then walk up to each of them to let them know you where ready to leave... When you took off so did we. So when you seen a line of 20 bikes behind you, you didnt think we where riding with you?

I dont have a problem with you. I have a problem with what you say and then what you do. If you only want a few people to ride with talk to them on a private note a set up your ride with out posting it on a fourm! Do you know how many poeple read your post and never post ANYTHING on any thread! A shit load. So dont say "hey make sure you tell me your going" Its says show up and lets ride.

Dont make a thread about a ride unless you expect others to show with out posting.....

Dont talk so much shit about the way others ride... When you do the same as they do...

Then people wont have a problem with you....

You took the words right out of my mouth Drew.

Bottom line...We all bought bikes to take excitment to a different level. It might be doing wheelies in a T-Shirt to being a weekend warrior but no need to bash people for having fun.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Wait a sec.... this is facking ridiculous!!!

I believe as mature gents someone should have approached Joe & told him what your intentions where. To assume that he should assume that if you followed etc, etc, is a HUGE indication that no one took the time to COMMUNICATE each other intentions...

You coming on here bashing another member when in the posts it clearly looks that you didn't take the initiative to say introduce yourself or greet the person you intend to ride with is hypocritical in itself...

I tell you what guys... I know Drewster & Cammo have ridden with Joe in the past cause I have seen in it. In the very least you should have greeted Joe just as you expected Joe to greet you. If you didn't, then you are no better than him for not greeting you... Specially when on another board it is clear that Joes ride was not the one you intended to crash... it was Calvin's AKA Knine over at TSB.

If Joe didn't loose anyone in his group then the pace he set was fine for those that bothered to greet & communicate their intentions to join the ride... anyone else that tagged along better be able to keep up.

What a bunch of BS... I'll be sure to avoid the SC crowd if they are incapable of recognizing the huge miscommunication issues... I sure as hell don't want them to assume I am assuming what their intentions are if I run into them...
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by racerraul
Wait a sec.... this is facking ridiculous!!!

I believe as mature gents someone should have approached Joe & told him what your intentions where. To assume that he should assume that if you followed etc, etc, is a HUGE indication that no one took the time to COMMUNICATE each other intentions...

You coming on here bashing another member when in the posts it clearly looks that you didn't take the initiative to say introduce yourself or greet the person you intend to ride with is hypocritical in itself...

I tell you what guys... I know Drewster & Cammo have ridden with Joe in the past cause I have seen in it. In the very least you should have greeted Joe just as you expected Joe to greet you. If you didn't, then you are no better than him for not greeting you... Specially when on another board it is clear that Joes ride was not the one you intended to crash... it was Calvin's AKA Knine over at TSB.

If Joe didn't loose anyone in his group then the pace he set was fine for those that bothered to greet & communicate their intentions to join the ride... anyone else that tagged along better be able to keep up.

What a bunch of BS... I'll be sure to avoid the SC crowd if they are incapable of recognizing the huge miscommunication issues... I sure as hell don't want them to assume I am assuming what their intentions are if I run into them...
I'll 2nd that.
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by racerraul
Wait a sec.... this is facking ridiculous!!!

I believe as mature gents someone should have approached Joe & told him what your intentions where. To assume that he should assume that if you followed etc, etc, is a HUGE indication that no one took the time to COMMUNICATE each other intentions...

You coming on here bashing another member when in the posts it clearly looks that you didn't take the initiative to say introduce yourself or greet the person you intend to ride with is hypocritical in itself...

I tell you what guys... I know Drewster & Cammo have ridden with Joe in the past cause I have seen in it. In the very least you should have greeted Joe just as you expected Joe to greet you. If you didn't, then you are no better than him for not greeting you... Specially when on another board it is clear that Joes ride was not the one you intended to crash... it was Calvin's AKA Knine over at TSB.

If Joe didn't loose anyone in his group then the pace he set was fine for those that bothered to greet & communicate their intentions to join the ride... anyone else that tagged along better be able to keep up.

What a bunch of BS... I'll be sure to avoid the SC crowd if they are incapable of recognizing the huge miscommunication issues... I sure as hell don't want them to assume I am assuming what their intentions are if I run into them...
now THAT was well said.....
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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Joe was the last one to get to the gas station. I was getting gas when I turned around and see them saddle back up. I cant speak for other's but when its your ride and your the last one their you would ask around. Not just get off your bike for a moment and then take off. Thats fine. I understand there was miscommunications around the event.

I thought it was fun riding his pace. I think what was dick that he decided to jet off after riding with a group larger then 20 bikes for more then an hour around a truck on a small road around a 90 degree with that many people behind him. Then never waited up.

Yes Joe someone should have talk to you. You should have talk to us. We understand all of that now. But it does work both ways. I know if I led a pack of bikes of 20+ for more the an hour then I would know they where with me. But that must be me. I wasnt mad untill you dipped around the old man in that old ass truck. I made me think of all the bashing and shit talking you have done on this forum. Saying you would never do such a stupid thing like that. But you did. It made me think of you as a hypocrite.


Joe you are a good rider. I have rode with you on a few occasions. But I lost respect for you when you talk all that shit about others. Then you went and did it yourself. Dont talk shit when someone post up something about a "squid doing something stupid" We all do stupid shit on our bikes. Thats what I had a problem with.
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