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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by neurovish
...so how about doing a more gymkana like course next time?
If one of our esteemed club members wants to volunteer to be an event chairman and do that kind of course, we could do it.

That's the cool thing about being an event chairman, you get to impart some of your own character to the event and/or the course.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 02:46 PM
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So what's the differance in what we've had and a gymkana type course. I've been starting to think about what my events course will look like - By the way Loren, do we have a site map of the pad without any course layout already on it. Might not be a bad thing to post to the web site.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by oilleak
So what's the differance in what we've had and a gymkana type course. I've been starting to think about what my events course will look like - By the way Loren, do we have a site map of the pad without any course layout already on it. Might not be a bad thing to post to the web site.
He's talking about the variant of autocross that they're calling gymkhana in Japan these days. I'm not sure how they score them, there must be some judging other than time... if they even consider time. It's sort of a mini "drifting" competition from the videos I've seen. The course includes pivot cones (you do a loop around the cone), figure-eights (you do an 8 around two cones), wide sweeping turns to drift through, exaggerated offset slaloms that you really can't get around without hanging the tail out and things of that sort. It's all about controlled oversteer. Not sure how our regulars would take it.

As for the site map, I'll send you the usual event chairman info. I have a map, but it's not scaled properly. Bill took some actual measurements last week, so when I get that info back from him, I'll revamp the map and put a copy on the website.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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hehe...I'd love to try and design something, I think most people wouldn't like it very much though. As far as I know gymkana is scored by time, but the course is set up in such a way that the fast line is too tight to drive without drifting. Such a thing would probably be more suited to a somewhat 'experimental' event, like the night-time hotlapping (btw, bring back the hotlapping for a month where I'm not dirt poor)....or introduce it slowly with a spin cone here or there

Is there a sunriders autox this month? I looked at the calendar, but didn't see one scheduled until september.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by neurovish
hehe...I'd love to try and design something, I think most people wouldn't like it very much though. As far as I know gymkana is scored by time, but the course is set up in such a way that the fast line is too tight to drive without drifting. Such a thing would probably be more suited to a somewhat 'experimental' event, like the night-time hotlapping (btw, bring back the hotlapping for a month where I'm not dirt poor)....or introduce it slowly with a spin cone here or there
Having a "gymkhana" or "drifting" style element in a course would probably go over better than doing an entire course that way. Not that it wouldn't be fun, just that it's such a departure from what we're used to. After everyone left last Saturday (while waiting on AAA to come let someone into their car that Dan locked the keys in!), I went out and goofed off in the wet parking lot. I can tell you, when you've spent years teaching yourself to be in control, it's difficult to force yourself to let the car get out of control! Likewise, when your car is set up to keep the back end planted in a turn, it's hard to get it to drift with any degree of finesse.

Give me your financial schedule for next year and I'll be sure to consider it when we do our events schedule!

Is there a sunriders autox this month? I looked at the calendar, but didn't see one scheduled until september.
That is correct, nothing until September. Here's how that happened:

The small group of folks who have been running the SunRiders show for the past few years didn't want to be stuck out in the heat setting up and tearing down these events with little help in the middle of the summer. So they didn't schedule any events during the summer months.

The new Autocross club and a renewed effort to get people involved in helping with the events rather than just competing in them has shown lots of promise, and we may have a more complete schedule next year. It all depends on how many of our new members decide to chair events next year.
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Cefiro
I can help.
Great! Now, clue me in to who you are (I'm bad enough with real names... cross-referencing to user names loses me every time) so I can hold you to it.

Those of you who are interested in helping with or keeping up with the SunRiders Autocross program should subscribe to our Yahoo Group: SunRiders Autocross
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Loren
The small group of folks who have been running the SunRiders show for the past few years didn't want to be stuck out in the heat setting up and tearing down these events with little help in the middle of the summer. So they didn't schedule any events during the summer months.
That makes sense...the June autox was hot enough for me...maybe try doing the summer schedule at night next season? I wish I could tell you what my financial schedule is for next year, I don't even know if I'll still be in the area though....I am employed until the end of september, so I should be able to make it to the next one. After that.....who knows
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