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Why does this sound like self-fulfilling BS? Miami F1? Has F1 worn out it's welcome a

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Why does this sound like self-fulfilling BS?

Miami F1?
Has F1 worn out it's welcome everywhere else and is now looking for first-timers who will believe that F1 really IS something?

Bleah! Just tax the rich, make it look like a video game, and throw some parties. Tell people that they "aint s*** " unless they show up. Stupid people believe anything.

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emailBy Chris Medland | April 28, 2022 1:11 PM ET

I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say that the Miami Grand Prix is the most anticipated race of the 2022 Formula 1 season so far......... by who?

How much will be spent in order for the few to take their money and run?

Most people who work in F1 love racing in the United States, and that’s mainly thanks to the success of Austin and Circuit of The Americas, where a very cool track and fun location combine to make for a great week that the sport always looks forward to.

So Miami was already onto a winner before anyone has even set foot in the city, despite having a track that isn’t really in the city at all, (don't tell anyone) and utilizes the parking lot around a sports stadium after it was unable to get approval to be set up downtown. A little like St Pete uses an old baseball stadium parking lot........(But let’s get real, Miami is hardly Caesars Palace…)

But it’s not just those who work in F1 who are excited. I can honestly say I’ve not had as much interaction with brands, venues and PR agencies as I have in the build-up to next weekend’s grand prix. People are hyping and hawking their wares aggressively. Hey buddy, want to buy a duck? A genuine Miami Grand Prix duck?

There seems to be multiple parties and events planned for every single night of the week, starting as early as Wednesday and running right through to the following Monday. F1 is going to be in town, and bars, restaurants, and hookers all want to be a part of the show. Make some money from the suckers and haul butt.

I wasn’t expecting that. Sure, I thought Miami would be embracing the race, but not to this level. A lot has been said recently about a desire to protect classic tracks and I’m very much on board with having the best driving challenges remain on the calendar, even if they’re not in the most glamorous of places or able to pay the same race-hosting fees. But there’s also something the much more established events can learn from Miami.

Thousands of fans are going to descend on the city for the race, but not everyone can afford a ticket. While I’ll get into the costs later, the fact that somebody isn’t going to the actual grand prix itself doesn’t mean they don’t want to be part of the scene/atmosphere, and viewing parties, events and other activations around the city can ensure people come in and enjoy the weekend whether they’re trackside or not.

It appears that Miami has picked up on the success of similar events around the States — one similar meet-up in San Francisco had over 300 people show up for an Australian Grand Prix that started at 10 p.m. local time — and is going big on ensuring there’s plenty to do in the city. 300 people?

That approach is clearly boosted by the demographic that the race is aiming at, with a focus on high-value tickets and even higher-value hospitality areas. Beach clubs, fake marinas… Miami International Autodrome is not going for the biggest crowd of the year by any stretch, but it is going for one of the wealthiest. So multiple venues around the city are trying to tap into some of the money that is coming in, in what is quite a similar approach to the Monaco Grand Prix. So watch out for pick pockets and loose women as the sign says.

It’s a price point and target audience that has come in for criticism, but I think it’s pretty smart. The United States Grand Prix in Austin is the established, awesome fan event that has given F1 a permanent home in the States and has the capacity to welcome over 400,000 across a race weekend. It’s similar to some of the established European races and Melbourne, and with the latter it shares a cool city that gets behind the race too.
While most GPs emphasize the experience for general fans, Monaco highlights exclusivity and behind-the-rope social events. Miami is looking to tap into something similar. Sam Bloxham/Motorsport Images

If Miami tried to do the same, the two events would be fighting over fans. The appetite is there for more races, but it’s smart to target contrasting audiences, ideally ones that are almost unique to each event and leaves space for the other. Miami is catering to a very different kind of fan compared to Austin, allowing each to focus on what they do best.

The fact still remains that the far greater audience watches a race on television, so simply having the event look cool visually and take place on the right timezone is a big step for F1.

And the teams know it. Just this week, McLaren, Alpine and Williams all launched Miami merchandise ranges — coinciding with F1’s own efforts — that go above and beyond anything seen for a specific race so far this season. By the time I’ve finished writing, there there might even be more. Buy stuff! They might not be back again and you will have the only one,
as if anyone cared.

As another example, the day after the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix took place, F1 had a post on its Instagram page advertising Miami as the next event. Imola didn’t get the same treatment after Melbourne…

It is an event that has been prioritized by the teams and the sport, because it’s the latest one in a market that is exploding,
since they are telling people that it's exploding.......... and they want to capitalize. With countless team and driver activations taking place as well, there’s no doubting that the sport is putting absolutely everything it can into trying to make it look like, and then to ensure the race is a success...at least until the folks who made the money have left town.

And that’s all anyone who is a fan of F1 in America can ask for. In the past it was almost like the sport was arrogant in its approach to racing Stateside, which it was, going through its normal routines and putting in no extra effort to make its mark, instead expecting the local market to do the hard work for it.

Even Austin, with a great circuit and big crowds, had spells where it seemed to be struggling and it felt like F1 might walk away in search of even more money, like it didn’t really want to be there...and like it didn't really care anyway. . But now it is starting to see some of the potential that it knew was there realized, both at COTA but nationwide with the additions of Miami and Las Vegas.

For millions around the world, the first race at Hard Rock Stadium will rightly be judged on the sporting spectacle they see on their televisions. But that’s not going to be the only measure of success next weekend, and right now it’s clear that F1 and Miami itself are leaving nothing on the table in terms of making it a race to remember.

One way or another.
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Miami promised to be big – and it's delivering big BS

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Those of you who are paying attention might notice that my column this week is a little later than usual, and that’s Miami’s fault.

No, I haven’t been out partying (OK, I did make it to Marlins and Heat games earlier in the week) but it has been one of the busiest race weekends I have known, and it’s only Friday.

There’s good reason for that. The teams and drivers are more invested in this race because by association they are actually invested in it. Invested by association? Sounds like BS to me. Here’s how.

Usually, a race promoter pays F1 a set fee, which means the sport is guaranteed income. The teams then receive a percentage of the overall revenues at the end of the year after shipping and handling fees by the officials.

With Miami, it’s different, because there is more involvement from F1 in terms of the promotion of the event in partnership with Stephen Ross. I’m told it’s not to the same extent as the full promotion of Las Vegas, but it means at least part of the profits from the race will go to F1 itself, and therefore to the teams..... after shipping and handling fees by the officials.

So you can see why they were willing to do so much promotion, create bespoke merchandise, and even have their drivers carrying out activations as early as Tuesday.

At the Marlins game I saw Charles Leclerc out on the field throwing around a baseball, and that's real "investment" BS and he was followed by the Red Bull pair throwing out the first pitch on Wednesday, at the same time that I was unashamedly milking the fact Tom Brady said “Hi guys, how’s it going?” to a group of us at a golf event with Lewis Hamilton. So throwing a baseball around and throwing a pitch and saying "HI" is REAL "investment"! BS BS BS

But to get all of the drivers (minus Fernando Alonso) and team principals together for a pre-race launch party featuring Kygo on the Wednesday night just showed how invested the teams are, because that is a very rare occurrence so early in the weekend.
and having a party is REAL "investment". Sure..... BS BS BS

The relentless schedule of events is at a level I have never seen before, but the city seems to have struck the right balance between announcing F1’s arrival and maintaining the Miami authenticity that makes it a place people want to visit.

On the interstate between the track and downtown (yes, it can be a long drive, but it’s barely any further than COTA is from downtown Austin) there are F1 advertisements lining I-95. Not only does it alert anyone in the vicinity to F1’s presence, but it highlights the commercial importance of the race to team partners. This is a place so many involved with the sport want to be.
Putting up signs is investment! NO stuff BS!

It does have a very ‘Monaco’ feel. On Thursday night a Williams event featured a show car decked out in a bright livery from a local artist being unveiled in the lobby of the W Hotel on South Beach, with guests dressed to the nines and being handed free champagne and beer. Getting hotel hangers on drunk is investment! Get them drunk enough and they will buy a ticket, maybe.
The Watt brothers got some pitstop practice in with Haas. Andy Hone/Motorsport Images

But outside the normal Miami world is turning, with bars and restaurants providing the party vibe that is always on offer, only this time with the added bonus of F1 cars being demonstrated on Ocean Drive, meaning fans that have come to the race are getting the best of both worlds. Driving race cars on the street! What an investment! Let's all get on the roads illegally It's an "investment"!

It must be said, those two worlds come at a pretty steep cost, but that’s exactly where this race is positioning itself. And nice things don’t come for free.

That’s not to say that I don’t feel sorry for fans who have been priced out of the event, that's just tough s***! but big events they tend to be expensive, and there’s plenty of people who would love to go to a Super Bowl but cannot afford the huge prices, so up theirs!

And the reason for those huge prices become clear if you’re lucky enough to set foot inside the Miami International Autodrome.

It is an impressive facility – and it is massive so airheads with cash can pee their pants because it's big.....doesn't that make you want to poop your pants too? So much has been crammed in around the track, with an excellent infrastructure allowing fans to move around to the countless entertainment offerings. The fact the majority will be pulled down after the race ends – leaving just the track and the pit building as permanent aspects – and rebuilt for each grand prix on the 10-year contract is even more remarkable. Tearing down buildings and building them again is INVESTMENT!

It’s America doing what America does best when it comes to events: putting on a show and then telling the dumasses that it's investment.

And I’m not just gushing over the great race from my biased position as a great writer for a great American website. The fan zones are lively and the extremely busy paddock is full of people who have been hugely impressed, including NFL stars. Those jerks with money must have no brains if a lot of people impresses someone. But call everything "investment" , and THAT's impressive!

J.J. and T.J. Watt are guests of Haas this weekend and I was lucky enough to sit down with them for an interview on Friday, when they were decked out in team gear after having carried out pit stop practice and met the drivers. Kevin Magnussen was top of J.J.’s list to meet, the Dane having impressed him with his comeback at a team that the pair feels an affinity to after Guenther Steiner’s Netflix appearances. Showing up if you are famous for something is "investment".

But your event has to be doing something right to attract such names for a day of practice. That the pair wanted to be at the track on a Friday and soaking up the event shows the way in which F1 has encroached into the U.S. mainstream, and turned some people who were drawn in by Drive to Survive into aficionados who want to know every single detail they can, because otherwise they don't know what it is anyway.

If an event such as Miami brings even more big names to the sport, like, uhhh, I will think of someone in a minute....then in turn they are likely to open it up to new fans who will take an interest solely because their heroes do. And from there, they can become hooked, just like Netflix managed to do.

The commercial set-up of the race might have caused the teams to be that bit more engaged than at other events, but the most appears to be being made of that opportunity. Bringing more people to the sport means that maybe someone will get a job
and go to work...but we keep saying "investment" enough and I hope that I don't look stupid saying investment endlessly.

When I wrote about the hype last week, it was all still based on expectations, and it felt like Miami would either prove to be an epic event or a huge disappointment. I was actually leaning towards the latter being more likely given the scale of what the organizers were trying to put on at the first time of asking, and the potential for teething problems.

But as Friday draws to a close and the parties kick-off again following the end of an entertaining FP2 session – highlighting the challenging nature of the track itself – it feels like the chances are increasing for it to be the former....which is another BS statement that I have to say.

J.J. Watt did admit the fake marina makes him embarrassed to be an American, though. So it’s not all perfect…
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The Miami Grand Prix got a thumbs-up from the top three finishers, with Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc calling it an “amazing” event.

After a number of years in the planning stages, the first race took place around the Miami International Autodrome at Hard Rock Stadium in front of a sell-out crowd, drawing in A-list celebrities such as Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Michelle Obama, Serena Williams and LeBron James. While the track layout itself came in for constructive criticism, the podium finishers were impressed with the event as a whole and they better say that since they won. Yep. giving free tickets to celebrities is what makes an event great!

“I think it was an incredible atmosphere,” Verstappen said. “I mean, it was really incredibly well organized. Really nice to see that. It’s not easy to put an event on like this. But yeah, they did an amazing job, and I had a lot of fun, driving around.

“I think track-wise, we can improve a few areas. But I have say in the race, I think Sector 1 was quite fun. I do think Sector 2… would have been nice if it could have been a bit faster and flowing for an F1 car like we have right now. You know: super long, heavy, wide. The [Turn] 14-15 chicane is a bit of a tricky combination.

“And if it means more, I mean it’s another 25 or 26 points, right? It’s a nice venue, that’s for sure, but still you know you have the same amount of points what you can gain.”
A perfect setting, but the track could still do with some modifications, according to the race protagonists. Steve Etherington/Motorsport Images

Leclerc echoed Verstappen’s sentiments, after a race that saw huge amounts of activations throughout the weekend,
whatever activations are.

“Yeah, the atmosphere was incredible,” Leclerc agreed. “It’s great to see how much interest the sport has got in the last few years. And yeah, organization was great. Loads of people, good weather. So yeah, it was amazing to be here.”

After finishing third, Carlos Sainz said the event itself doesn’t need any improvements, but the track can be modified to provide an even more exciting race for fans.

“I think it was a mega event, put together… not easy on the first event to put such a well-organized venue,” Sainz said. “So many people coming, so many people in the paddock… for me the paddock was incredibly full!

“It was crazy. So yeah, congrats. I look forward to coming back here in the future. And I think, between FIA and ourselves, we can do a better job with the tarmac, we can do a better job with some corner combinations, and we can put together an even better show in the future.” BS BS BS
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Three big lessons learned from Miami

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After a pretty momentous week in South Florida, Formula 1 learned plenty about where it stands in the United States, how Miami executed its first race weekend, and what the future might look like.

So after all the hype and excitement surrounding the race, I thought it was right to reflect on the week that was in Miami Gardens, with three major takeaways.

The show was spectacular, the race could be better

While a great event, the race itself wasn’t a classic, Steve Etherington/Motorsport Images

There’s no escaping the fact that Miami delivered a remarkable first event. There are always teething problems – in fact there are regularly issues with anything of this scale – but the fact there were so few at the newly-constructed Miami International Autodrome was particularly impressive.

The main issues appeared to center around Paddock Club early in the weekend, with Tom Garfinkel explaining the late arrival of casual workers (due to the way they were being bussed in) led to guests arriving before food had been prepared. It’s an area that demands a high standard at every F1 race, so there were some unhappy punters.

But there were also thousands of very happy ones. I went out into the fan zone on Sunday morning and the general admission areas were filling up with excited spectators, while the atmosphere in the Foro Sol style stadium section at Turn 12 was electric two hours before the race.

The race itself, of course, could have been better. But as the closing stages showed, it wouldn’t be fair to solely blame that on the track. The layout was a challenging one for drivers, and although the lack of grip off-line was expected to hurt overtaking chances. it also opened them up as it would punish a driver who ran wide such as Valtteri Bottas at Turn 17 late on.

Boring races can happen at any track. Imola wasn’t a classic, and nor was Melbourne. But the reasons why the race was largely quiet in the middle stages needs to be looked at. Drivers cited the Turn 14/15 chicane under the Florida Turnpike as unnecessary, but they’re not going to like an awkward slow-speed section. What needs looking at is whether removing it would improve the racing or not.

The track surface too came in for a fair bit of criticism from some drivers but not all. The fact that sections of Turn 17 needed repaving as early as Friday meant there is work to be done in that area and it will hopefully improve the racing, but all the race organizers can do is ensure an event that people want to come to and have a good time at, regardless of how the sporting part plays out.

A legitimate exchange between two fans – who didn’t know each other – boarding my flight out of Fort Lauderdale on Monday night went as follows:

“Fun weekend wasn’t it down there? They really did a good job”

“Yeah, awesome”

“I don’t know how they pulled it off.”

If that feedback is going to reach those who didn’t come to the race, then there’s every chance they’ll be wanting to make a visit to a future grand prix and that’s all you can ask for.

Fans are here for the sport’s stars

David Beckham was among several high profile stars at the Miami GP, Steven Tee/Motorsport Images

There are a number of ways we can gauge the increase in popularity of Formula 1 in the United States, and Miami becoming the second race on the calendar – and Las Vegas soon to follow – is an obvious one.

But there was another aspect of the race weekend that jumped out at me and really gives me confidence that the sport is going about things the right way.

There were so many A-list celebrities in Miami throughout the weekend, culminating in a star-studded grid on Sunday that featured the likes of Tom Brady, LeBron James, David Beckham, Michael Jordan, Josh Allen, DJ Khaled – the list was enormous. We’ve seen that before at races, though, when VIPs are invited to try and provide reach. If their millions of fans see them at a grand prix, they’re more likely to try and understand what F1 is all about. What felt different in Miami, is how their presence didn’t overshadow the F1 stars themselves.

The paddock was rammed, and whenever there was a massive swell of people all pointing their cameras at someone you couldn’t help but try and see who it was who was causing the commotion. And more often than not, I’d try and look over the crowd expecting to see one of the above names and instead find it was a driver or team boss who was stealing the show.

ESPN’s Buffalo Bills reporter Alaina Getzenberg was covering the race and told me she’d never seen Josh Allen able to move around so freely across Saturday and Sunday. In recent years, wherever he went he tended to be the biggest star, but in Miami he, along with many other big names, was playing second fiddle to those on the F1 grid because that’s who the fans really wanted to see.

The teams want F1 to be a closed shop.
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Michael Andretti is still pushing for an F1 entry, F1 officials say Go F1 yourself! Mark Sutton/Motorsport Images

For all the positive talk about US growth and the way F1 is reaching a new fanbase, it should never be forgotten that the reason America is such a big focus for the sport right now is money.

The big four sports of football, basketball, baseball, and hockey can all generate such massive figures for their franchises and owners that F1 knows there is the potential for it to profit from such a sports-mad nation.

The sponsorship deals that have been done in recent years attest to the income available from the States, and extra races continue to increase awareness around the sport, but it’s not all good news…

The four sports I listed above all have a franchise model that seems to have penetrated F1 in the past 18 months or so, since the signing of the new Concorde Agreement. In that, a $200million anti-dilution fund was included that guaranteed a payment to teams in case a new team entered, as any new team could take a share of the sport’s revenues.

But in Miami, the teams kept referring to themselves as “franchises” as well, and effectively said that figure – that they had agreed to in August 2020 – wasn’t big enough. The fact that the sport is booming and in a good place was actually used as a reason not to allow any new teams to join, because they don’t want to give up their share of the revenues, both directly and indirectly.

Michael Andretti’s attempts to create a new entry have been well documented, and he’d do so in a way that would appeal directly to America, and be attractive to brands in the US. If the teams block that entry, then those brands will have to partner with those already on the grid if they want to be in F1.

The sport is growing, and the teams don’t want to share. So they suggested Liberty Media should be the ones to reduce their slice of the revenues if they want a new team to join, which is always going to be unlikely.

If the teams get their way and the sport takes on an even more American model in becoming a closed shop, then the value of each franchise increases even further. The teams are trying to make sure they get richer, and they were willing to admit it over the Miami weekend. It’s just somewhat ironic that the US growth and influence could well see an American team left on the outside looking in. We don't need no steekin Andretti. We got 10 teams and suckers think that is a race.
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Additional U.S. F1 races good for Mexican GP, promoter believes.
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The expansion of the Formula 1 calendar with three races in the United States has been a positive move for the Mexico City Grand Prix, according to the race’s promoter Alejandro Soberon.

Mexico City rejoined the F1 schedule in 2015, three years after Circuit of The Americas returned the sport to the USA after an absence of five years. Since then, interest in the States has grown to the point where there will be three events in 2023, but Soberon — the CEO and president of race promoter Corporacion Interamericana de Entretenimiento (CIE) — says there’s even space for another race in the region.

“I’m not sure about Central America, but three races in the States, before it was a challenge, now it even looks reasonable,” Soberon said. “I think Miami’s going to be a very big success; you saw the attendance in Austin is much better than other years, so it’s a stronger race in Austin; and all the pre-sales in Vegas are through the roof.

“So I think that’s good for the region, for the time zone it’s very good. Canada, three races (in the U.S.), Mexico and Brazil. The question is, is there room for another one? My personal view is there is room for another one but it doesn’t have to go against another race in the same time zone. It can go against another time zone.

“We have many clients of ours who went to Miami. They loved Miami and they loved the race in Miami, but they came back and they secured their tickets in Mexico and said, ‘Being there was great, probably I will go back, but I love my race.’”

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Soberon says the higher ticket prices in America also help to make Mexico City a viable alternative option to U.S.-based F1 fans.

“On the contrary (that more American races hurt sales), because when you compare the price and the packaging to come here we’re very competitive. And everybody knows it’s a good race, it’s a great experience. Mexico City is a very interesting city to come and do more things than the race.

“Then maybe instead of taking three days, you take a week and come and see the restaurants and the culture in the city and interesting places. So it becomes beyond a race — it goes deeper than that.”

A further race in the Americas has been mooted in Colombia after a visit to Barranquilla by F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali earlier this week, although RACER understands that is one of just many meetings that the sport has lined up due to the level of interest in new host venues wanting to join the calendar.
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More than 40,000 fans turned out in Las Vegas over the weekend to join in the launch party for next year’s grand prix along the iconic Strip.

Lewis Hamilton, George Russell, and Sergio Perez were on hand to provide car demonstrations in both modern and older machinery as Formula 1 closed down parts of Las Vegas Boulevard with just over one year to go until the third race in the United States joins the schedule. We plan to hype the hell out of this race with only 10 cars. We have to do something to fool the suckers that this is exciting. We used celebrities to tell brain-disconnected ticket buyers in Miami that is how you measure a successful race. Gambling is probably the real excitement here. Maybe we could pay celebrities to come out. I saw Elvis the other night.

I am so excited to be here in Vegas,” Hamilton said “Just driving down that Strip, watching movies like so many of you have seen in Vegas, and the lights, this race is for sure going to be the best race of all time! I hope that saying that increases my sagging T-shirt sales!

“We have races like Singapore, Monaco for example is pretty hectic. It’s definitely not going to be easy (to focus), but we’ll be here to try and win the race of course. Hopefully we get to enjoy a bit of what this city has to offer. I want to drink expensive free booze,
dip the wick in some hot and sleezy nasty-a** hookers and gamble away some of the big bucks that Mercedes pays me to convince rich black people like me to buy a Benz.

“Honestly it’s a surprise always to see so many people here, the whole way around the circuit and the support from all of you – people who have come out to Austin, Miami, it’s been phenomenal this year so thank you so much for the support.”

The Mercedes drivers had neon lights under their F1 cars as part of the demonstration to show off that we still be black.
They looked funny with 24's so we used F1 wheels instead and after trying out the track layout Hamilton says he expects the circuit to put on a show for fans. I'm gonna be wearing my neck chain against the rules to show the officials that I'm black anyway.

“Vegas baby!” Russell said. “It’s super-exciting this race, it’s wild already, and this time next year it’s going to be crazy. I can’t wait for it.

“I don’t think this is going to probably be the most exciting one to drive, but for you guys watching I feel like this race is designed for good racing, for overtakes, entertainment, and I think it’s going to be super-exciting.

“But to be honest I don’t really care as long as we’re at the front – that’s what it’s all about!”

Haas team principal Guenther Steiner and Williams boss Jost Capito – along with Williams driver Alex Albon – also made appearances on the main stage, while F1 president Stefano Domenicali was joined by Liberty Media CEO Greg Maffei and Las Vegas Grand Prix CEO Renee Wilm to paint the start line as track development work continues in Sin City.

There was an afterparty that featured a special performance by The Killers, while a drone show followed the official launch of ticket sales for the event.

Next year’s race will take place from November 16-18, with the grand prix held on the Saturday night, and the race organizers say they saw “overwhelming demand” for pre-registration for its Priority Interest List.
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Miami GP grandstand capacity boosted by 3,000 for year two

The race organizers estimate the first race generated $350 million for the local economy, including Miami Gardens and the South Florida and Greater Miami region.

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The 2023 Miami Grand Prix will host an increased capacity compared to the inaugural race, with event organizers adding 3,000 grandstand seats.

Last year’s first grand prix at the Miami International Autodrome featured an intentionally limited capacity to try and keep on top of traffic and access challenges, with the plan being to add further seating where possible in the future. It has now been confirmed that the grandstand capacity will be increased by 3,000 to take the total up to 56,000, with expanded hospitality numbers as well as general admission passes.

“Our first race last May was a sell-out success in which more than 240,000 spectators visited the Miami International Autodrome for an unforgettable experience,” race president Tyler Epp said. “Due to overwhelming demand we have been maximizing the venue to increase grandstand capacity, expand hospitality and to improve the experience for our General Admission Campus Pass ticket holders, to give the opportunity for even more fans to experience the incredible spectacle of the Formula 1 Crypto.com Miami Grand Prix. The race organizers estimate the first race generated $350 million for the local economy, including Miami Gardens and the South Florida and Greater Miami region.

“In everything we do we are committed to providing an unparalleled fan experience to ensure Miami will be one of the must-attend races on the Formula 1 calendar for the next decade.”

It was recently announced that the track will repaved to try and improve racing, while a permanent Paddock Club structure will be built above the pit garages and the team’s paddock buildings moved inside Hard Rock Stadium to create a Team Village located on the NFL field. Stomp yo feet and wiggle yo toes for $350 Mill!

The race organizers estimate the first race generated $350 million for the local economy, including Miami Gardens and the South Florida and Greater Miami region.
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Default How about we give free tickets to celebrities? How about more BS?

Can the Miami GP ever become the event it aspires to be? Probably not without more BS !

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“Well, we certainly had challenges coming into the race, getting all of this done in time,” Tom Garfinkel says, sitting in the plush surroundings of a permanent Paddock Club suite somewhere above the Williams garage that gets used once per year.

“We did do a lot of changes, we did make a big investment in things. So last year, honestly, it was just trying to pull it off. (Doing that) in less than 12 months with all the other events we had; that was a huge challenge. This year, it’s like ‘OK, we want to try to be perfect this year’. We’re not just trying to pull it off. We’re trying to get this right in every way.” So dump on the hype and BS !

The Miami Dolphins CEO is catching his breath before the main event. It’s Sunday morning at Hard Rock Stadium, and pretty much all that’s left to do now is race. So Garfinkel can afford to relax to some degree – at this point, he’s at the mercy of the show that the 20 drivers are going to put on in a few hours’ time.

But I’ve got bad news for him: Miami isn’t perfect this year, and won’t ever be. No matter how much BS you dump on it.

It’s the right attitude to have, of course, but far more successful and established races than the Miami Grand Prix also have their issues. Austin, for example, can boast enormous crowds and lower ticket prices, but has had its fair share of traffic and concessions problems. Spa-Francorchamps is legendary but getting people in and out of the venue, plus the weather, can be a huge headache.

I’m being a bit unfair only mentioning those two, because the list could include pretty much every grand prix on the calendar in some way, shape or form. If you’re in the business of bringing tens of thousands of people (as a minimum) to an event, someone’s not going to have a great time. This is America and America loves Stock Car Racing and not the crap el expenso BS of making us think the high dollar grand prix is grand. Thank goodness we got all that money for Pirelli putting up their banners completely around the track.

What Miami has shown, though, is that it is doing the most important thing it should do after year two, and that is prioritizing being the best event it can be by listening to feedback and improving, rather than being overly concerned at the bottom line immediately. They can always screw people with high ticket prices later.

...or immediately....

“From a business standpoint, there’s a lot of different ways of looking at making money, there’s a lot of different measures of profit,” Garfinkel says. “I would say that our focus right now is on investing in a great experience. We do have a long-term deal with Formula 1 and we’re confident this will be a profitable endeavor.

“And it’s not like we’re losing a ton of money or anything like that. At this point, we’ve got great demand, we’re trying to put on a great event. And if we do that, and we can get this kind of attendance every year and this kind of experience for people, it’s going to be profitable.” But it looks like Americans are not going to be easy to fool.

Perhaps that much was clear by the number of discounted tickets available in the immediate lead-up to the race, although Formula 1 insists the event had around 90,000 each day and was a sell-out on Sunday. Garfinkel is confident that the priorities of a number of different fan bases had been accommodated...or at least he can act like it....

“I think the hardcore race fans are taken care of because ultimately, the most important thing is the drivers, the cars, the competition on the track,” he says.

“So we tried to create a great circuit for racing, and we weren’t happy (after last year). F1 and the FIA didn’t ask us to or in any way demand us to change the racetrack, and frankly drinking champagne and hanging out with snot nosed jerks who got free tickets is not as "cool" as it is in some foreign country where
people are more stupid than Americans.
Miami GP organizers place a premium on the fan experience – but they also place a premium on ticket prices, which means many fans can’t afford to go in the first place. American fans wear cutoffs and t-shirts and not the high dollar suits that the upper crust wears. They drive Fords and Chevys instead of Ferraris. Steven Tee/Motorsport Images

“We could have patched up a couple of things and when we could have gone racing. But we wanted it to be right, which is why we made the investment to repave
the crumbling track,
or at least make it look like it, so I think ultimately the racing people are coming here to see these 20 drivers and these cars and the competition of the race and that’s always the most important thing next to us having to come up with the cash to pay off the FIA and F1 big shots who demand their money short term and don't give a crap about race fans long term.

“You can create a great environment around that. The whole week in Miami or down here around the event itself. You’re going to get more casual race fans to come out and enjoy the food and the wine and the music then whatever else is going on, and then fall in love with the racing.”

Sunday didn’t deliver a classic race, but it provided as much as action as could be hoped for in a season dominated by one team. Behind the top three there were fights for positions and overtakes right up to the flag, though it lacked the chaos or controversy that could really hook in the more casual viewer. They only had 20 cars anyway. How do you fool people that 20 cars is a race?

Beyond the immediate interest, Garfinkel wants Miami’s race to cement itself to an extent that it leads to career opportunities within F1 for locals, building on the outlook of former Dolphins executive Jason Jenkins who died last year. Don't ask me about "career opportunities for locals". There are none. Unless you count coughing up your cash to form a "partnership" where you pay the cash and the snot nosed crowd takes your cash.

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“I’d like to see 15 years from now there’s some kid from Miami Gardens, who’s an engineer and a race car working in PR and F1, and it only happened because we brought this race here,” Garfinkel says. But honestly, it's all a bunch of hype, and we won't be here in 15 years.

“The impact on people’s lives here… I get a little emotional… (Jenkins) said it and lived it last year, he believes strongly that the impact that this event is going to have on people’s lives will be bigger than anything in South Florida for a long time. Those are his words. And I believe that, and I believe that’s a part of what we’re doing here. Sure maybe some kid will get a job, but he can get a job with cars long after we have taken the money and ran.

“If you think about this to the impact of, we’re living in a society that’s more isolated than ever, even pre-pandemic, kids are growing up on their phones, and they’re communicating with each other on their phones. And there’s things called Blue Zones, which are these areas in the world where people’s life expectancy is past 100. And they do studies on these places – Harvard did the biggest study on happiness ever – and the number one thing that was correlated to happiness was social interaction and connection with other people. More than what you eat, how much you exercise, there’s actually studies that show that loneliness has the same correlation to negative impact on life expectancy as smoking. And the people who live past 100 live in places where some slick willy is not conning them into
paying out money which they don't have to watch some jerk who won't even give them an autograph, behind a fence which they can't get through to even ask.

“The reason I say all that is, what we do, whether it’s the NFL games, whether it’s this, whether it’s music, concerts, you’re bringing people together to have shared experiences, and enjoy life together. It’s just not the same thing where you’re sitting alone at home watching TV as when you come out, and you’re with people enjoying these things behind the high dollar fence that you are not allowed through. But we can tell them that is an "experience" and that it is "social interaction",
but they know that's BS.

“I think the business that we’re in, not just what we do here, but the business that we’re all in, is really important. It’s just about bringing people together at a time when we have polarization and isolation and all these problems. And yeah, I think that has a big impact on people.”

It’s a noble outlook that might help Garfinkel ignore some of the external criticism of the race that appears to come more prominently from afar than actual attendees, but people still need to be able to afford those experiences. With grandstand tickets well north of $1000 even when prices were cut close to the race, wanting to be part of that shared experience comes at great cost.

That’s an area that could well be addressed after the initial outlay to simply put on the race starts to level off, while feedback is already being taken to try and improve the event for 2024. We are really going to be in trouble if we can't get local businesses to put up the cash to get us started next year. I don't know how we are going to fool them when we didn't deliver this year and they didn't make a lot of the money like we promised them.

It was clearly better this year, (we have to say that) and the target has to be better again next, especially with Vegas on the horizon. But perfect? That’s always going to feel a long way off. I'm hoping that we can still pull off the con long enough for me to get into real estate or something instead of hyping some kind of con job that won't be here after the FIA and F1 have taken their sanction fees and run.
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Default Being "IN" F1 at all is what reflects badly on the F1 teams.

Why Ferrari's Le Mans success does not reflect badly on its F1 team.
63 Lemans teams raced for 24 hours.

Being "IN" F1 at all is what reflects badly on the F1 teams.

There are only 10 F1 teams.

You get better racing at any redneck Saturday night dirt track in America that has more than 10 teams racing.

Formula One is "pile of crap" racing.

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Honestly, this was a column I was already preparing to write before one of the RACER Mailbag questions landed in the inbox this week, when Al from Boston asked if Ferrari’s victory at Le Mans creates more pressure for the Formula 1 team.

That’s because Al’s point appears to be one currently shared by a number of fans after Ferrari secured the overall win at Le Mans last weekend. The argument is if that those running the World Endurance Championship program can achieve success, then it reflects badly on Fred Vasseur and co for not doing the same in F1.

The reality is more complex than it might appear. This is Ferrari, after all. Expectations have rarely been realistic, and patience has not been a trait afforded to the team in F1 in recent years. Just look at Mattia Binotto’s extremely impressive achievement in taking a team that finished sixth in the constructors’ championship in 2020 and turning it into a four-time race-winning outfit two years later.

The success came too quickly in the first part of 2022, and was then used as a stick to beat Ferrari with when it faded. That’s not to say there weren’t big failings last year, but taking a step back to look at the overall trend and trajectory suggests the team was generally on the right path.

So I can understand why there’s a fear that the romantic victory at Le Mans – 50 years on from the last Scuderia success in the top level there – could actually hurt the F1 team. But it really should be doing the opposite.

Ferrari winning one of the most iconic races in motorsport is always going to trigger a reaction from racing fans. Despite the recent surge in popularity that F1 has enjoyed – notably leading to a wider and more diverse fanbase that openly show their support for their team, be it Williams or Red Bull – there’s no escaping the fact that Ferrari remains the most recognizable outfit on a global scale.

And many of those fans have had their attention grabbed by the Hypercar entry and Ferrari’s return to the top category of sportscar racing this year, particularly after it took pole position at Le Mans.

At that stage it felt a little bit similar to the F1 situation, with Ferrari also on pole at Sebring to demonstrate good qualifying performance but not having the race pace to fight with the dominant Toyotas. That was until the 24 Hours, where Balance of Performance changes in the lead-up to the event had pegged back Toyota, and the No.51 of James Calado, Antonio Giovinazzi and Alessandro Pier Guidi executed an excellent race to take the victory.

Le Mans is never an easy race to win, and the FIA and ACO had the power to make the changes to try and make for the most equally-matched field it could in order to try and deliver a better racing spectacle, but straight-up BOP is just not an option in F1.
F1 and Hypercars operate on completely different playing fields, but Ferrari’s F1 team can draw confidence from what the WEC side was able to achieve at sportscar racing’s highest level. Jake Grant/Motorsport Images

So it would be grossly unfair to directly relate the success of Ferrari at Circuit de la Sarthe to what Vasseur’s team is able to achieve right now with the F1 side of the operation.

But what should be taken from the result is confidence. The victory should be a boost to the whole of Maranello: seeing one of its cars win one of the most iconic races in the world, and doing so with two Italian drivers for good measure.

That Vasseur and Charles Leclerc were present during the race weekend shows how connected the team wants to be, in much the same way that McLaren has integrated its IndyCar drivers with F1 testing at times and pushed its Triple Crown history in recent weeks.

Such achievements are reminders that success in F1 isn’t everything in racing, and within the same organization ability can be shown in other categories that offer a closer competitive field, either by being largely-spec or having BOP regulations.

In F1, the regulations lead to such a meritocracy in terms of team performance that drivers can make less of a difference, but so too can so many of the team personnel. Vasseur, or James Vowles, or Andrea Stella, or Otmar Szafnauer, or Alessandro Alunni Bravi – any of the new team bosses of the past 18 months – can’t create a race-winning car in such a period. They can only influence the team structure designing that car.

Strategists can only try and get the best result the car offers. Aerodynamicists can only improve the part of the car they are responsible for, in conjunction with their counterparts. And they’re clearly not building a machine to Hypercar specifications, so why judge them based on what a Hypercar team does?

So no, winning Le Mans should not add pressure to the F1 team. But on top of confidence, it should add motivation. The sight of the celebrations at the end of Sunday’s endurance epic, the drivers posting about dreams come true, the headlines generated around the world, it’s a snapshot of what a first Ferrari F1 title in nearly two decades could look and feel like.

It will inevitably lead to the likes of Leclerc and Carlos Sainz being asked about the potential of racing at Le Mans in future, but also about what’s missing from the Scuderia at the moment as it chases F1 glory. There will be multiple answers to the second question, but in the form of the WEC set-up there are lessons that can be learned, and that’s a good thing.

Budget cap restrictions may have played their part in personnel needing reallocating,but no other team in F1 is competing in the top level of sportscars with its own prototype, and for simply being remotely competitive in both categories, Ferrari should be applauded – let alone winning the biggest endurance race of them all.
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