Toyota looking to make unrestricted TS050 HYBRID run
Lap records fall!......If Toyota runs un restricted by Lemans IMSA rules?
Lap records fall!......If Toyota runs un restricted by Lemans IMSA rules?
Time to kick some butt!
Image by Portlock/LAT
131 shares
share
tweet
emailBy: Stephen Kilbey | 6 hours ago
Toyota Gazoo Racing is exploring ways to unshackle its double-Le Mans winning TS050 HYBRID LMP1 car, which is due to be retired at the end of the current FIA World Endurance Championship season, and break its own Le Mans lap record from 2017.
Toyota Gazoo Racing Team Director and TMG Vice President Rob Leupen told RACER that there is a desire from Toyota to see what the current iteration of the TS050 can achieve without the success handicap restrictions imposed on it during the current FIA WEC season.
“The record-breaking 3m14.793s from Kamui (Kobayashi, at Le Mans), it was a great moment, I will never forget this,” he reflected. “I can say now I had in my mind that we could get below 3m15s. I even told this to a journalist, who said: ‘you’re crazy’. Normally you like to push the limits; what he did was sensational.
“The current regulations don’t allow us to show what really is possible,” because the performance of our car is really held back due to the EoT (Equivalence of Technology) we have today. The car has a new aero package, so it was it made it even quicker, but we agreed we need to have racing (with the privateers).
Toyota is taking inspiration from Porsche, which used an unrestricted version of its 919 Hybrid Evo to set the fastest-ever lap of the Nordschleife in 2018. Image by Porsche
“So what I would like to see happening is, maybe we can find an occasion where we can unleash the car, and give it the full power, and reach the full performance envelope it has complete another Le Mans quick lap. That would be something I really would like to see, as we are not allowed to let it go.
“I think there is much more to come. And we know that the car can do much more, but because of regulations it is not yet not possible to showcase this.”
After pulling out of LMP1, Porsche broke lap records at the Nürburgring and Spa-Francorchamps with an Evo-spec 919 ‘Tribute’. Leupen said Toyota would consider something like this as part of the TS050 HYBRID’s swansong.
“We are thinking very hard about doing this,” he said when asked if Toyota would try to break lap records with the TS050 like Porsche did with its 919. “But at the present moment, it’s only thinking. Yes, I would like to see our car’s full potential with good drivers in Le Mans. Imagine Kamui doing another lap attack there with a completely unleashed TS050? 3m10s?”
In order to break the Le Mans lap record again, Toyota would need to find a way to take to the full track with an unrestricted TS050 HYBRID. Each year there are only a few opportunities to do this, as the full Circuit de la Sarthe is only in operation for select events. In 2020 Toyota could do this at the Le Mans Test Day, during Le Mans race week or at the Le Mans Classic.
Toyota, TS050 HYBRID, Le Mans/WEC
Lap records fall!......If Toyota runs un restricted by Lemans IMSA rules?
Time to kick some butt!
Toyota looking to make unrestricted TS050 HYBRID run
Image by Portlock/LAT131 shares
share
tweet
emailBy: Stephen Kilbey | 6 hours ago
Toyota Gazoo Racing is exploring ways to unshackle its double-Le Mans winning TS050 HYBRID LMP1 car, which is due to be retired at the end of the current FIA World Endurance Championship season, and break its own Le Mans lap record from 2017.
Toyota Gazoo Racing Team Director and TMG Vice President Rob Leupen told RACER that there is a desire from Toyota to see what the current iteration of the TS050 can achieve without the success handicap restrictions imposed on it during the current FIA WEC season.
“The record-breaking 3m14.793s from Kamui (Kobayashi, at Le Mans), it was a great moment, I will never forget this,” he reflected. “I can say now I had in my mind that we could get below 3m15s. I even told this to a journalist, who said: ‘you’re crazy’. Normally you like to push the limits; what he did was sensational.
“The current regulations don’t allow us to show what really is possible,” because the performance of our car is really held back due to the EoT (Equivalence of Technology) we have today. The car has a new aero package, so it was it made it even quicker, but we agreed we need to have racing (with the privateers).
Toyota is taking inspiration from Porsche, which used an unrestricted version of its 919 Hybrid Evo to set the fastest-ever lap of the Nordschleife in 2018. Image by Porsche“So what I would like to see happening is, maybe we can find an occasion where we can unleash the car, and give it the full power, and reach the full performance envelope it has complete another Le Mans quick lap. That would be something I really would like to see, as we are not allowed to let it go.
“I think there is much more to come. And we know that the car can do much more, but because of regulations it is not yet not possible to showcase this.”
After pulling out of LMP1, Porsche broke lap records at the Nürburgring and Spa-Francorchamps with an Evo-spec 919 ‘Tribute’. Leupen said Toyota would consider something like this as part of the TS050 HYBRID’s swansong.
“We are thinking very hard about doing this,” he said when asked if Toyota would try to break lap records with the TS050 like Porsche did with its 919. “But at the present moment, it’s only thinking. Yes, I would like to see our car’s full potential with good drivers in Le Mans. Imagine Kamui doing another lap attack there with a completely unleashed TS050? 3m10s?”
In order to break the Le Mans lap record again, Toyota would need to find a way to take to the full track with an unrestricted TS050 HYBRID. Each year there are only a few opportunities to do this, as the full Circuit de la Sarthe is only in operation for select events. In 2020 Toyota could do this at the Le Mans Test Day, during Le Mans race week or at the Le Mans Classic.
Toyota, TS050 HYBRID, Le Mans/WEC
__________________
Here is the listings of ALL New Mexico Car Events Including Route 66 Anniversary
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...ar-events.html
Top Car Club Meetings? Click a city
Got a video? Email it to Bobfixesitup@yahoo.com
________________________________________________
Keystone Motor Club (Founded 2012)... Free car show Every 3rd Saturday, newsletter is
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...-car-club.html
Keystone picture gallery is here:
https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93202
Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent...eventid=102331
Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
All Cars Every 2nd Saturday Free Breakfast: Since 2015 and more. click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...ast-tampa.html
Tampa Racing.com covers the Tampa car scene and supports many fund raisers, worthy causes and events that enrich our community. We hope you enjoy them all.
What do I do? ---- on-site *Aftermarket* spring/suspension installations --- on-site impact wrenching---street lowering with your own stock springs...........True Bi-xenon HID projector headlight conversions........ Much more at Bob's Garage!
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...ontact-us.html
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...e-senor-honda/
Here is the listings of ALL New Mexico Car Events Including Route 66 Anniversary
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...ar-events.html
Top Car Club Meetings? Click a city
Got a video? Email it to Bobfixesitup@yahoo.com
________________________________________________
Keystone Motor Club (Founded 2012)... Free car show Every 3rd Saturday, newsletter is
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...-car-club.html
Keystone picture gallery is here:
https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93202
Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent...eventid=102331
Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
All Cars Every 2nd Saturday Free Breakfast: Since 2015 and more. click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...ast-tampa.html
Tampa Racing.com covers the Tampa car scene and supports many fund raisers, worthy causes and events that enrich our community. We hope you enjoy them all.
What do I do? ---- on-site *Aftermarket* spring/suspension installations --- on-site impact wrenching---street lowering with your own stock springs...........True Bi-xenon HID projector headlight conversions........ Much more at Bob's Garage!
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...ontact-us.html
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...e-senor-honda/
Toyota Hypercar still on track for July rollout
108 shares
share
tweet
emailBy: Stephen Kilbey | 5 hours ago
Despite the well-documented delays in the full set of regulations for the new-for-2020 FIA WEC Le Mans Hypercar formula, Toyota Gazoo Racing is still on track to begin testing in late July.
Towards the end of last year, before the regulations were finalized, Toyota told RACER that its target was to get its GR Super Sports Hypercar on track in July, the month after the final race for its TS050 HYBRID at Le Mans in June. Both technical director Pascal Vasselon and managing director Rob Leupen are still confident that the project is on track to meet that target.
There are no margins for error, though, and no time to waste. Because of that, Vasselon told RACER that Toyota feels that the change to the start date of the 2020/21 WEC season — which has been pushed back to the end of August — is a hugely positive decision by the series organizers.
“I think everyone understood that timing was critical,” he explained. “We needed a bit of time before start of the season so yeah, this season calendar has taken into account the development of our cars by moving the Prologue to as close as September as possible. Having a gap between Silverstone and Monza is good management as well.
“The Prologue is essential to check FIA systems and equipment. Normally any issues we would encounter at a test like that could be solved in hours, as we hope to have solved critical issues before we get there.”
More Le Mans/WEC!
Tincknell and Westbrook join Aston Martin for Le Mans
INSIGHT: A decade that reshaped racing
The Week In Sports Cars, Dec. 30, with Pruett and Goodwin
Right now, Toyota is still committed to having two cars on the grid for the opening round at Silverstone, which follows the pre-season test. But it will be tight and there will not be time to build two brand-new cars for the race and have separate test cars. Two chassis will be built initially. One will go testing in July and the other will be put through the FIA WEC homologation processes. Both of those will then race at Silverstone.“We can see at the moment that still some elements of the regulations have not been finalized — key elements like the aero regulations are signed off, but only a month ago,” he explained. “So in many areas of the car we are running late, not because we are delayed by other programs, just because the regulations were not fully finalized. We are pushing.
“From our side, we are finishing the monocoque and suspension because it was not too affected by his latest regulation modifications. So, we are on a reasonable schedule from suspension side. The monocoque is borderline though and bodywork is really critical, because of the delay of even more critical electric and electronic items where we still have a few clarifications pending.
“We believe that (getting cars ready for July) is feasible, but critical as well. This is the shortest development cycle we have ever had to get a race car of this level ready for the track.
“We have already planned all the testing that will begin with the rollout in July. Before track testing we will use our usual processes which consist of testing elements of hardware in isolation on rigs. We will use our model based process to speed up the development we are doing so when we hit the track we can immediately go testing.”
Toyota, which has eight years of LMP1 experience under its belt, is unsurprisingly ahead of its main competitors for Season 1 of Le Mans Hypercar: Aston Martin and Glickenhaus. So just how are things progressing in the other camps?
Stakeholders on both sides of the Atlantic are waiting to see what the final version of the Hypercar regulations might look like. Image by Aston MartinAston Martin has remained quiet since announcing the program last year. Currently, Aston Martin tells RACER, progress is being made and that the program to develop its race-going Valkyrie is on track. However, details are still scarce, the British marque waiting until the time is right to provide an update on the status and targets in the development of its new challenger.
With titles to fight for in GTE Pro and Am in the current WEC season and the Valkyrie road car now being put through its paces ahead of customer deliveries, there’s plenty going on behind the scenes in addition to its incoming top-class WEC effort.
American Jim Glickenhaus, meanwhile, is pushing hard to get his company’s SCG 007, which will be co-branded with an unannounced engine supplier, ready for the start of the season and out testing at the same time as Toyota will begin running its car. However, it remains to be seen whether or not it will make Silverstone. It is worth noting that the second round of the season at Monza is very close to where the Glickenhaus Hypercar program is based in Podium, just west of Milan. With no flyaway events until November, the trip to Italy could prove to be a huge benefit to Glickenhaus if it is capable of racing shortly after the opener.
“We are building the car,” Glickenhaus said on the Marshall Pruett Podcast. “We have begun a massive engineering design process and engines running on dynos in a matter of weeks.
“We have the chassis layout, we have a gearbox sourced and have made a deal with a famous aerodynamic wind tunnel company to begin the tweaking of our designs. We are working with our engine manufacturer on the look of the car as it will have design cues from their product.
“Our goal is to have the car on the ground in early July and begin testing it. We want to see how quickly we can join the WEC. Whether we can make the first WEC race, I’m not sure.”
So it’s full-steam ahead for the three Season 1 contenders. There will be hugely trying times for everyone working on the development of a Le Mans Hypercar, as time is ticking.
In Cologne, despite it being just months until testing is scheduled to begin, there is no sign of the Toyota’s program’s existence when RACER passed through the TMG chassis workshop that houses the TS050s.
At present there are three TS050 spare tubs on the shop floor, one of which will only come into use should a third one be needed at Le Mans in 2020. The closest things to a Le Mans Hypercar in the room are the road-going Lexus LFAs, that are serviced by TMG and worked on just a feet away from the TS050s.
“We need to be there at Silverstone, with a car that needs to run because of the experience we have,” Leupen, TMG’s managing director, told RACER. “It’s a difficult process to get there and it’s been hard to get to where we are now.
“I don’t think we look at this like ‘we are the Audi’: We know we are able to build a good car and we know that Aston Martin will give us a hard task. We should be the benchmark, but we should be humble. Aston Martin will not be underestimated.”
Hypercar, Toyota, Le Mans/WEC
__________________
Here is the listings of ALL New Mexico Car Events Including Route 66 Anniversary
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...ar-events.html
Top Car Club Meetings? Click a city
Got a video? Email it to Bobfixesitup@yahoo.com
________________________________________________
Keystone Motor Club (Founded 2012)... Free car show Every 3rd Saturday, newsletter is
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...-car-club.html
Keystone picture gallery is here:
https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93202
Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent...eventid=102331
Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
All Cars Every 2nd Saturday Free Breakfast: Since 2015 and more. click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...ast-tampa.html
Tampa Racing.com covers the Tampa car scene and supports many fund raisers, worthy causes and events that enrich our community. We hope you enjoy them all.
What do I do? ---- on-site *Aftermarket* spring/suspension installations --- on-site impact wrenching---street lowering with your own stock springs...........True Bi-xenon HID projector headlight conversions........ Much more at Bob's Garage!
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...ontact-us.html
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...e-senor-honda/
Here is the listings of ALL New Mexico Car Events Including Route 66 Anniversary
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...ar-events.html
Top Car Club Meetings? Click a city
Got a video? Email it to Bobfixesitup@yahoo.com
________________________________________________
Keystone Motor Club (Founded 2012)... Free car show Every 3rd Saturday, newsletter is
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...-car-club.html
Keystone picture gallery is here:
https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93202
Veterans and Friends on First Saturday...Some pictures....
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent...eventid=102331
Port Richey Rod Run at Coast Buick GMC
https://carstoshow.com/registerevent.aspx?eventid=99114
50's Diner US19.... A Florida Attraction.
1730 US-19, Holiday Fl 34691 click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/t...acing.html CHRA sanctioned cruise-in.
Cruise-In; Free; Every Saturday 5-8PM plus 10% off the whole menu to cruisers
50's Diner pictures are here: https://carstoshow.com/eventdetails.aspx?eventid=93194
All Cars Every 2nd Saturday Free Breakfast: Since 2015 and more. click: https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/e...ast-tampa.html
Tampa Racing.com covers the Tampa car scene and supports many fund raisers, worthy causes and events that enrich our community. We hope you enjoy them all.
What do I do? ---- on-site *Aftermarket* spring/suspension installations --- on-site impact wrenching---street lowering with your own stock springs...........True Bi-xenon HID projector headlight conversions........ Much more at Bob's Garage!
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...ontact-us.html
https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/b...e-senor-honda/
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
senor honda
Toyota/Lexus Tech
0
Dec 23, 2019 02:34 PM
senor honda
Toyota/Lexus Tech
0
Jun 14, 2017 01:01 AM



