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McLaren fined $100 million
McLaren stripped of constructors' points and fined $100 million in Formula One spy case - Yahoo! Sports
By ROB MURRAY, AP Sports Writer
September 13, 2007
PARIS (AP) -- The McLaren team was fined $100 million and stripped of its points in the constructors' standings Thursday in the spying scandal that has rocked the sport
McLaren, which leads the current drivers' and constructors' standings, was punished by the World Motor Sports Council for allegedly using leaked secret technical documents belonging to F1 rival Ferrari.
Team drivers Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, currently 1-2 in the championship standings, were not punished and can continue to compete for the season title.
``Ferrari is satisfied that the truth has now emerged,'' the Italian team said in a statement.
The $100 million penalty includes McLaren's expected loss of income, and McLaren still could be penalized for the 2008 championship, FIA said in a statement after a hearing.
``We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home,'' McLaren team chief Ron Dennis said. ``The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today.''
McLaren escaped the harshest possible penalty, as FIA could have kicked the team and its drivers out of the 2007 and 2008 championships. In December, FIA will decide on any possible sanctions against McLaren for the 2008 season.
FIA said it did not penalize McLaren's drivers ``due to exceptional circumstances'' because they provided evidence in exchange for immunity.
``We believe we have grounds for appeal,'' team chief Ron Dennis said. ``But of course we are going to wait for the findings of the FIA which are going to be published. The most important thing is that we go motor racing this weekend, the rest of the season and next season.''
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By ROB MURRAY, AP Sports Writer
September 13, 2007
PARIS (AP) -- The McLaren team was fined $100 million and stripped of its points in the constructors' standings Thursday in the spying scandal that has rocked the sport
McLaren, which leads the current drivers' and constructors' standings, was punished by the World Motor Sports Council for allegedly using leaked secret technical documents belonging to F1 rival Ferrari.
Team drivers Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, currently 1-2 in the championship standings, were not punished and can continue to compete for the season title.
``Ferrari is satisfied that the truth has now emerged,'' the Italian team said in a statement.
The $100 million penalty includes McLaren's expected loss of income, and McLaren still could be penalized for the 2008 championship, FIA said in a statement after a hearing.
``We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home,'' McLaren team chief Ron Dennis said. ``The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today.''
McLaren escaped the harshest possible penalty, as FIA could have kicked the team and its drivers out of the 2007 and 2008 championships. In December, FIA will decide on any possible sanctions against McLaren for the 2008 season.
FIA said it did not penalize McLaren's drivers ``due to exceptional circumstances'' because they provided evidence in exchange for immunity.
``We believe we have grounds for appeal,'' team chief Ron Dennis said. ``But of course we are going to wait for the findings of the FIA which are going to be published. The most important thing is that we go motor racing this weekend, the rest of the season and next season.''
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I can't support F1 anymore. They've never been very high on Americans and since Bernie shafted Tony George's Indy bid and Red Bull dumping Scott Speed I couldn't care less about F1.
The racing was sub-par anyway. Follow the leader. Yawn.
The IRL has it all over F1 when it comes to watching drivers actually compete.
The racing was sub-par anyway. Follow the leader. Yawn.
The IRL has it all over F1 when it comes to watching drivers actually compete.
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Actually, Monza wasn't too bad...everyone hanging it out, and Hamilton was going around people on the outside.
McLaren losing constructor's points is irrelevant in the big picture. As long as TV shows McLarens leading Ferarris around the track, and Hamilton and Alonso continue to generate more media interest -- and sponsor exposure -- then any other pair of drivers, no one will take a Ferarri championship seriously. Even a $100M fine is a managable loss. So it's losing a trophy...which if Ferarri has any pride at all, they'll hide in the back of the case.
McLaren losing constructor's points is irrelevant in the big picture. As long as TV shows McLarens leading Ferarris around the track, and Hamilton and Alonso continue to generate more media interest -- and sponsor exposure -- then any other pair of drivers, no one will take a Ferarri championship seriously. Even a $100M fine is a managable loss. So it's losing a trophy...which if Ferarri has any pride at all, they'll hide in the back of the case.
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Actually, Monza wasn't too bad...everyone hanging it out, and Hamilton was going around people on the outside.
McLaren losing constructor's points is irrelevant in the big picture. As long as TV shows McLarens leading Ferarris around the track, and Hamilton and Alonso continue to generate more media interest -- and sponsor exposure -- then any other pair of drivers, no one will take a Ferarri championship seriously. Even a $100M fine is a managable loss. So it's losing a trophy...which if Ferarri has any pride at all, they'll hide in the back of the case.
McLaren losing constructor's points is irrelevant in the big picture. As long as TV shows McLarens leading Ferarris around the track, and Hamilton and Alonso continue to generate more media interest -- and sponsor exposure -- then any other pair of drivers, no one will take a Ferarri championship seriously. Even a $100M fine is a managable loss. So it's losing a trophy...which if Ferarri has any pride at all, they'll hide in the back of the case.
my thoughts exactly. i still love f1, and this season has seen more passing than any of the last 8 years. the top four drivers have at least 3 wins each i believe. if it weren't for ferrari failures, the championship would be closer between the top 2 teams
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I love F1 and definitely root against McLaren. I wish for Hamilton to fail for the rest of the year. However, I don't agree with this decision. It seems way too harsh. I believe Ron Dennis when he says the following...
"Today's evidence given to the FIA by our drivers, engineers and staff clearly demonstrated that we did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage".
"We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home. The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today."
Holy Moly. You and I couldn't be further apart on this subject. I laughed hysterically when I found out there would be no more F1 racing at that embarrassing "track" called IMS. Foreigners probably think it's the best we have ... when we have Road America, Road Atlanta, Laguna Seca and now Miller Motorsports Park, among others. Give it time. It will be back, and hopefully at a better track.
I do agree with your thoughts on Scott Speed, though. I feel slighted that he was so unceremoniously sent packing.
IRL? Round and round and round. Now, for me, that's not as exciting, but it was nice to see Dario win it all a few days ago. I prefer Champ Car, but I don't prefer watching Bourdais win it all ... again.
"Today's evidence given to the FIA by our drivers, engineers and staff clearly demonstrated that we did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage".
"We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home. The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today."
I can't support F1 anymore. They've never been very high on Americans and since Bernie shafted Tony George's Indy bid and Red Bull dumping Scott Speed I couldn't care less about F1.
The racing was sub-par anyway. Follow the leader. Yawn.
The IRL has it all over F1 when it comes to watching drivers actually compete.
The racing was sub-par anyway. Follow the leader. Yawn.
The IRL has it all over F1 when it comes to watching drivers actually compete.
I do agree with your thoughts on Scott Speed, though. I feel slighted that he was so unceremoniously sent packing.
IRL? Round and round and round. Now, for me, that's not as exciting, but it was nice to see Dario win it all a few days ago. I prefer Champ Car, but I don't prefer watching Bourdais win it all ... again.
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Holy Moly. You and I couldn't be further apart on this subject. I laughed hysterically when I found out there would be no more F1 racing at that embarrassing "track" called IMS. Foreigners probably think it's the best we have ... when we have Road America, Road Atlanta, Laguna Seca and now Miller Motorsports Park, among others. Give it time. It will be back, and hopefully at a better track.
I understand folks don't like the roundies. But the IRL has about a half dozen road events. And I just love watching and waiting for Danica to fuckup - ovals or road. That alone is worth the price of admission.
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