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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Victo is quicker and don't bother on shaving.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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I am not sure about the quicker part, but the victoracer should last longer than a v700. The v700 is well known for having poor wear characteristics, especially if they are not shaved. I would suggest shaved victoracers, but that is just my opinion.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:00 AM
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I'd go with a really good high performance street tire first. There are some who disagree, but most agree that it's better to learn on street tires. The limits of a street tire are lower and easier to find.

Switching to an autocross tire early in the game will get you plenty more grip, and you'll immediately be faster, but the limits of those tires are much higher and they come with less warning. The result is usually that you'll probably drive well under the limits of the tires most of the time. And when you do approach the limits, you'll shoot right past them because you haven't learned to smoothly drive at the limit.

If you really want to go with stickies, though... look into Toyo RA-1's. They are a step below the Kumho's, but that won't matter for a novice. Their benefit is that they "wear like iron" for an autocross tire, and they don't heat-cycle like the others do. Unlike the typical autocross tire that starts going "off" due to heat-cycles toward the end of it's life, the RA-1 is often reported to just get better and better as it wears and will be just as grippy right before you reach cord as it was new.

I'm actually thinking about getting a set for street tires. They might last 5k or so on the street.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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Loren, they're excellet street tires. I had them for 2 weeks before I sold the set, since my wallet can't take that kind of hit for street tires. I've got HOOSIERS to buy

Mars 302, for now, Loren's right. Don't goto race tires just yet. It'll slow down your learning how to actually drive, and it gives you more room for error. I'd also stay away from the RA1 as a tire to learn on. They use silly amounts of slip angle, and again, a poor choice to learn on....although a VERY FUN tire to drive on. Leonard on here can tell you the pitfalls of going to R-compounds too early, as he self-admittedly did on his Mustang.

I'd get <enter your choice of good street tire> and go through a set of those, autocrossing as much as you can. Once you've done that, maybe a year down the line, maybe less, then make the step up, if you want to go down that path.

Kumho MX would be my choice for a mustang, since they come in some good sizes, and they like heat. Also when picking tires, model is more important than size. A 245 Kumho MX will outstick most other tires in a, for example, 265 size.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Would a 225/50 fit your car?

The Kumho MX that Psued mentioned is available in 225/50-16 for $109 each. They are the hot shit street tire right now.

Or, on the cheap end... Kumho 711's... $54 each in the 245/45 size. Would almost be worth buying a set of those just to burn up while you learn. I've heard that they're not bad at all for the price. Probably about as good as the ES100's that you have now.
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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Yeah, I thought the 712's sucked, too. I've heard that the 711's are much better.
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