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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Default Navigation wiring install help (AVIC-D3)

I'm having a hard time figuring out the installation of the wires for my 99 TL. I bought a used Pioneer AVIC D3 and I think it is missing some wires. I bought the adapter that goes along with my TL, yet I search on Google and it seems that the D3 black speakers conectors have a "car speed signal input", and a " parking brake" wires that I don't have. Any help will be appreciated.

parking brake wire is a teal color, car speed wire is pink. All the other wires I have are connected except antenna, illumination, and dimmer.

Top of navi connector

Bottom of navi connector

Top of TL connector

Bottom of TL connector

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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When I install the unit the way it is, the screen will display "insert the appropiate disk" with the navigation cd in it.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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The speed wire is really unnecessary. The accelerometers in the Avic's do a fine job of figuring that out. I never used them, and it was actually a Pioneer tech rep that told me they were a waste of time.

The parking brake you do need, unless your Avic has been modded. My memory isn't all that great, so I don't remember the scoop on the N3. The N1's needed a trace soldered, and I believe the N2's had a switch. I seem to remember some later units needing a pulse box to bypass the brake feature. I'm drawing a complete blank on the D3. Did that one have two slots, one for CD's and one for Nav DVD's? Are you putting the nav disc in the right slot? I'm sure someone will chime on here with the right answers.

In any event, none of these would cause the unit to not recognize the disc. Sounds like you have another issue.

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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TJElite
The speed wire is really unnecessary. The accelerometers in the Avic's do a fine job of figuring that out. I never used them, and it was actually a Pioneer tech rep that told me they were a waste of time.

The parking brake you do need, unless your Avic has been modded. My memory isn't all that great, so I don't remember the scoop on the N3. The N1's needed a trace soldered, and I believe the N2's had a switch. I seem to remember some later units needing a pulse box to bypass the brake feature. I'm drawing a complete blank on the D3. Did that one have two slots, one for CD's and one for Nav DVD's? Are you putting the nav disc in the right slot? I'm sure someone will chime on here with the right answers.

In any event, none of these would cause the unit to not recognize the disc. Sounds like you have another issue.

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This unit only has one slot to insert the CD. When I got the unit, it didn't have the parking brake wire. The map CD, which is also the software is a copy from AVIC411 dot com web site (which is a forum with no help). Maybe my unit was modded but the last owner is no where to be found.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Make sure the DVD is burned correctly if you copied the software. And More than once I've had to burn 2 or 3 to get them to work, and i've got no clear explanation why one worked when the others didn't.
Also looking at your harness it appears you have the mute wire grounded. Why? It shoudn't be. What do you have the orange wires connected to? I see the dimmer of the deck is hanging to the side but in the pic it appears the car side is connected to something.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by luke81
Make sure the DVD is burned correctly if you copied the software. And More than once I've had to burn 2 or 3 to get them to work, and i've got no clear explanation why one worked when the others didn't.
Also looking at your harness it appears you have the mute wire grounded. Why? It shoudn't be. What do you have the orange wires connected to? I see the dimmer of the deck is hanging to the side but in the pic it appears the car side is connected to something.
I did copy the map into 3 different cds. In fact, I even try older versions of the map to see if it would work. But no luck. I hooked up the mute wire to the ground as shown here http://gallery.8thcivic.com/albums/audio/z19.jpg

Yet no luck there either. The orange wires are not connected to anything (dimmer, illumination). I don't understand how the last owner had it install with the missing wires on the unit plug. An original speakers wires plug costs around $40. Before I buy it I would like to make sure it would fix my problem.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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I'm not sure I follow what you're missing. The VSS, reverse, and parking brake wires will not be in the head unit connector. You need to locate them elsewhere in the vehicle and make your connections there. As was said, you can ignore the VSS on that unit. I actually have that exact same unit in my truck. And you can ignore the reverse if you're not using a backup camera.
Grounding the mute wire only applies if you've moved the pin to do the bypass, in which case you'd also ground the parking brake with it.
Are you burning the nav disc onto a CD or a DVD? I'm pretty sure it needs to be a DVD, not a CD.
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Originally Posted by luke81
I'm not sure I follow what you're missing. The VSS, reverse, and parking brake wires will not be in the head unit connector. You need to locate them elsewhere in the vehicle and make your connections there. As was said, you can ignore the VSS on that unit. I actually have that exact same unit in my truck. And you can ignore the reverse if you're not using a backup camera.
Grounding the mute wire only applies if you've moved the pin to do the bypass, in which case you'd also ground the parking brake with it.
Are you burning the nav disc onto a CD or a DVD? I'm pretty sure it needs to be a DVD, not a CD.
I burned it using a DVD+R dual layer with ImgBurn software at 2.0 speed with verify checked...
I thought that the unit plug had to come with the parking brake connector since it is the one that comes originaly hooked up on the unit. When I look online for the factory plug, they all come with the wires are missing. I don't mind about the VSS, and the reverse but wouldn't the unit suppose to work if the parking brake is not connected? And the wire is the one I don't have because it didn't come with it.
Here is what the original is suppose to look like
Pioneer Avic-D3, AvicD3, CDP-1063 Power Harness Plug - eBay (item 380224060037 end time Feb-06-11 14:18:41 PST)

My factory radio is out, I have a huge hole on my center console, and while driving all I hear are the voices in my head.
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 04:46 AM
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Ooh now i get ya, you're missing the parking brake lead completely. Sorry, i didn't get that at first. That's a problem. You either have the wrong harness, or someone yanked the pin out of yours. You'll need to find a pic of the wire side of the harness to see where it belongs. If mine were easy to get out I'd take a look at it and tell you, but it's not so I'd rather not remove it. Do some searching around avic411, I'd bet there are pics there.
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Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by yakosato
I burned it using a DVD+R dual layer with ImgBurn software at 2.0 speed with verify checked...
I got the same unit too and will be burning the nav dvd as soon as I get some dual layers. I think it depends on the make of the DVDs and your burner. Which ones are you using? I hear Verbatim DVD+R DLs are good.
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