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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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hey guys im going to get my alarmed installed soon and these are the add ons i got. what do you think?

i have the python 990

and im gonna get these add-ons...

EI 507m tilt sensor
DEI 520t backup battery
DEI 513t piezo siren(2)
DEI 506t audio sensor
DEI 508d radar sensor
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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What kind of car is it going in to?

It is my personal opinion that the true professional theives will get what they want regardless. The alarm is going to stop the other 99% of theives out there who are looking for a quick smash and grab, and the alarm alone (LED, Viper sticker, etc) is going to make them look for an easier target and probably skip your car.

The glass break sensor would fit into my above statement, which is again my opinion...the theives I want my alarm to stop are likely (and I stress likely) the ones who would just punch out the window/hit it with a rock/etc, and if your shock sensor doesn't go off for that, then it isn't adjusted to where you want/need it to be.

Backup battery depends on whether you are usually within the range of your 2-way remote, because if you are out of range then it doesn't do you much good if a thief cuts your siren, but if you are in range and can grab a bat or large object, go for it. (kidding about that bat part).

The proximity sensor can work well once adjusted right, and I am also a fan of multiple sirens in different spots.


Its all up to you and your needs/reasoning for the different add-ons, they all have their applications...and if your reasoning was to pick a bunch of different add-ons just to have them, well thats cool too. That is just my two cents for what its worth.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 05:09 AM
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I prefer using a battery siren, like the DEI 515R over using the 520t battery. Or use them in combo with each other for added protection. The thief can cut the siren wire and rip the siren out, and it will still be blaring in his hand.
The tilt sensor is a good idea to protect wheels, because if a thief is very gentle(almost none are) when jacking up the vehicle he may not trigger the shock, but the lugwrench almost always will.
I'm personally not a big fan of stacking a bunch of sensors on an alarm. It tends to lead to excessive false alarms no matter how carefully they are adjusted. I especially don't like radar sensors unless in a very specific application. To often they are tuned way too sensitive. There is zero reason for an alarm to even go into warn just because someone is 2 feet from your car. That's just more false alarms to deal with!
As with anything electronic the installation is absolutely critical. The best alarm on the planet wont help a thing if it's installed poorly!
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 05:46 AM
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Second what the two professionals stated above. We have done a few TR members here with TONS of add ons. Most all of them have ended up with different situations after the months and years have gone by. If you search alarms threads in this section, we did one for a member on here I believe eight different add ons about 8 months ago or so. When we called Directed tech support to find out how to daisy chain that many sensors, they said they didn't know-no one had ever done that many sensors. Then they suggested we didn't do it as it would lead to false alarms!

We got it done anyway over two days period of time after allot of testing and adjusting however and for the most part, everything has been pretty good except his battery/siren that he purchased on eBay was dead in a few weeks (they don't have much shelf life and he was sent a pretty old one). We replaced it with an "A" stock piece from here and have had zero problems since.

The Python is a good choice though. Made by Directed it has a full lifetime warranty as long as it was purchased/installed through an authorized dealer.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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I agree with all the above. Unless you have a convertable or t-tops or like to leave the windows down I would ditch the proximity sensor. Use that money for more sirens. My buddy has 4 sirens hidden throught the exterior of the car and it is pretty damn loud whne it goes off. If a thief finds one and cuts it, he still has 3 more and with the alarm blaring that loud, he is not going to stick around.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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yeah thats what i thought and i was kinda worrying bout false alarms, i dont wanna keep running out of work to shut the alarm off every half hour or something..so what if i went with the alarm, backup battery, sirens(hidden) and tilt sensor??

what is the battery siren?
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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A battery siren has a backup battery inside the siren itself. If it loses power (ie is removed from the car completely) it will continue to trigger for quite a while.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Interesting read, thanks for the tips guys. I'm looking to get an alarm installed in the very near future and i was wondering if you had any suggestions. Shops tend to cost some serious bank, are there any pros around who will do the work themselves on the side?
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Define "serious bank"? I can fix you up with a security system pretty fairly...PM me with what you're looking for with features and such and about what you're comfortable spending and I'll see if I can help ya out. We've always got something for TR people!
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You're in Luke's neighborhood and he has been around for along time. He knows what he is doing and you will find that you don't want to take an alarm to someone that doesn't have a proven track record. Not too many people/DIY'ers are willing, much less capable of installing an alarm even remotely close to the correct way. Even mechanics regularly bring their vehicles in to have alarms installed professionally.

I explain it to customers like this, if the alarm saves you just ONE break in, you will have recouped the average cost of it just by not having to pay for the damage alone that they will do to your vehicle on the way in. Not to mention if they get anything and the losses incurred with that.

And, most insurance companies will give at least 10% off your yearly premiums if you take the shop invoice and vehicle to them for a post-install inspection. You can recoup the cost of the alarm within 1-3 years just on insurance savings alone. Not to mention the peace-of-mind you get with having that safety net installed!
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