OK...Here's what I'd do...

Wire them in series. Your going to go Right positive out of amp to + of right front speaker. From negative of that speaker, you're going to go the the positive of the right rear speaker. From the negative of the right rear speaker, you're going to go the the Right - on the amp. Do the same for the other side. This will give you 6 ohms. Not ideal, but mids and highs don't need much power. Set the amp crossover at about 80-100 hz, and turn the gain down to about 1/4 (yep, 1/4...almost all the way down.) Just having a real amp instead of radio power will clean them up immensely, and the crossover will clean it further. Give it a listen, and see how well they match up with the bass level. Kick the gain up a little, if necessary.

Another option would be to just amp the fronts, and leave the rears on the deck (or take them out all together). Not much to gain here.

If you still, for some reason, want to take more bass out of the back speakers, you can add a couple caps, but I don't think you'll need to.

Toby

 

hopefully by using logical reasoning i can determine that if 2ohms gives me 400 rms 4 ohms gives me 200 rms, maybe 6ohms gives me 100? =S that'd be fine i suppose... I'm not looking for power out of these speakers, just clarity, power is going to be out of my subwoofer, my highs already make my ears bleed enough...

and yeah i was planning on removing 'radio' power altogether, it just sounds much cleaner coming from the outputs.
and i dont know if i understood you saying take out my rear speakers? im never taking those puppies out, i love em too much


but i'm talking to someone right now, i think i might be getting a 4channel pretty soon =S. so this audiobahn may just turn out to be a replacement for my BOSS amp.. lol. I dont know yet, im going to see what happens.

 

I got the best suggestion yet - pay someone who knows what they are doing to do it correctly, since Toby has been patient, take it to him to get it done right!.

p.s. - amp the front speakers
use the radio power for rears, and put bass blockers on all of them!

 

that would work if i had enough money.


Unfortunately i do not so i have to ask as many questions as i can before i tackle this thing on my own.

Hopefully the guy who i might get a 4ch amp from will contact me again soon, then i'll just have to sell the boss amp for like 100 bucks or something.

 

6 ohms should be roughly 150 watts, which is more than enough for what you are doing.

Once you get everything playing, you should try unhooking your rear speakers. You might be surprised how little they add to the equation. In my mind, they actually detract from the staging.

Next time you're here, listen to my Lexus with nothing but subs and front stage.

Toby

Toby

 

But Toby - You Cant Compair Wave Guides To Normal Speakers For Staging- Its Like A Knife In A Gun Fight

Just Power Your Front Stage With Amp - And Rear Stage Off Radio Power - Still Have Fader - And Should Get Good Mid Bass From Front Speakers

 

True, but really what improved with the horns was the imaging (L-C-R) vs. the staging. It was even impressive with just the SQ6 sets.

So, we can demo with my caprice (If I still have it) or my escalade. The escalade is a good example, because it has rear speakers, and I can a/b with and without them.

In my experience, most people think that they absolutely can't do without rear speakers. This belief is re-inforced by the fact that you can usually get bigger, louder, speakers in the rear. Most factory and aftermarket systems do need the rear speakers, but that is because of poor design and execution.

My point is that you can't beat a good front stage, for even casual listening...its not just a competition thing. Instead of speakering and amping the rear of the car, I think people should spend the money getting good, quality sound, up front.

Toby

 

I Agree - That Is How I Setup Many Sq Cars In My Time, But Anymore With Very Few Shows And Support Around Here For Shows - Most Poeple/customers Want What They Want, So Instead Of Fighting Them Just Give Them The Best Fit Within There Idea... That Is Why I Said To Just Amp Front Stage - Radio Power Rear Stage And Bass Block The Crap Out Them So They Will Last. You Know They Will Be A Sub In There Some Time And He Wont Be Able To Determine The Difference Between The Bass And Clipping Mids... Save There Lives ----- You Can Always Fade To The Front! Plus Most Factory Speaker Placement Doesnt Stage For Crap - All My Cars Use Custom Kicks For Front Stage And If I Used A Center Channel I Would Run The Amp Mix Stero/mono And Put A Seperate Volume Knob On The Center Channel To Dial It In.... Sq Is Great - But I Am A Bass Head At Heart - 164.4 On 1000 Watts - 16 Orion Xtr 12's - Back In The Day!

 

its not that i HAVE to have them, its that i like them so A. people in the back can hear them OK, (i've listened back there and a lot of the fronties is gone, filled in by rears a little)
B. I paid good money for them back last year, i'm not really the type of person to just let go of things too easily, especially if they've served me well.

Looks like im 99% getting that 4ch amp. i was talking to Dalton about it last night, looks like ill just hook that up main and the 2ch bridged for the subwoofer... I wonder if Audiobahn's 800 watt rms is better than BOSS's 900rms.... hrrmmmm. I really do hope so. i like the audiobahn too much already but the BOSS amp isnt too bad... for all the flak i've taken from dalton for it, i would actually miss the little bugger. That and having a remote control for my sub's volume level

 

Why are you bothering with any of this? Youre gonna end up blowing up your entire car. Just amp the fronts and run the rears off the deck. Game over