Looking to start out? Read Me!!

[Cecil]

ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time)
* Helmet: A Proper fit is critical... aka: very tightly
* Gloves: Try going through a day without using your hands.... Reinforced gloved (Racing Style) are great for street and track riding.
* Boots: At a minimum something to cover your ankle.... and leather is your friend.
* Jacket: Mess is better than nothing, textile is better than mess, leather is supior to textile.... padded / reinforced gear is best.
* Pants: Jeans are better than nothing, dragging jeans are better than street jeans, then textile, then leather.... padded / reinforced racing gear is best.
** A 1 peice suit is safer than a 2 peice suit **

If you can not afford gear, you can not afford to ride.
If it is too hot to wear gear, it is too hot to ride.

Do not ride until you are legal (Endorsement).

If you ride, you crash.... no exceptions.
Dress for the Crash, Not for the Ride.

Insurance does not seem so expensive when you are laid-up in the hospital with a totalled bike and tens-of-thousands (if not more) of dollars in accident related expenses.

Ride within your limits.
Keep your ego in check.
Have fun.... but Safety is Paramount!
Do not try to keep up with the seasoned track veterans... it will be painful.
Do not try to keep up with the seasoned stunters... it will be expensive.

Wear Gear.
Have an Endorsement.
Have Insurance.
Ride within YOUR limits.

[Puto]

Originally Posted by Cecil

If you can not afford gear, you can not afford to ride.
If it is too hot to wear gear, it is too hot to ride.

Thats a good statement.

[C4_crusin]

things you need to read before you turn the key(i'll add more if i think of any, feel free to make you own suggestions)

1.dont get a bike if you think you will look cool on it
2.dont get a bike if you think your invincable(spelling?)
3.be prepared to crash its going to happen
4.wear a gear it will save you life (most likley)
5.if you cant multi task dont get a bike
6.riding a motorcycle is work your going to get tired and sore
7.ride within your limits
8.there is nothing wrong with going the speed limit(or 5 over)
9.GET YOUR FREAKIN ENDORSEMENT(its not that hard, and you will learn somthing that will save your life)
10. get a bike that you are comfortable with/on
11.hiting cars hurts so dont follow too close.
12. cops are going to fuck with you!
13.make sure passengers have proper gear on too
14. dont drive like an asshole with a passenger(your responsible for their life)
15.riding with out a helmet on is the DUMBEST THING IN THE WORLD (especially when its hooked to your bike)
16. NEVER DRINK AND RIDE(i will pick you and you bike up and drive you home if needed, cause i hate rider down threads especially when it can be avoided)
17.you only get one life DONT FUCK IT UP
18.Road rash is not cool
19.patterson rd is not a race track
20.RIDE SAFE USE GOOD JUDGEMENT

[buck19]

So what does it take to ride legal?

[Cecil]

Originally Posted by buck19

So what does it take to ride legal?

An endorsement, which I believe requires the rider the pass the MSF course

Nothing difficult, but it is necessary.

[00eclipseGT]

Originally Posted by Cecil

An endorsement, which I believe requires the rider the pass the MSF course

Nothing difficult, but it is necessary.

Exactly what you need. Tryin to get into those classes is probly harder then passing the actual class itself!

[burgy240]

Thanks for the info all!

[Cecil]

Originally Posted by burgy240

Thanks for the info all!

No worries Burgy.... that's why we get the big bucks.

[saccay]

ok im looking into gettin a bike but i definately want to take the course first... any suggestions on places to take it and numbers to call.
any suggestions are appreciated
thanks

[saccay]

pm me cuz i cant always check the threads

[Cecil]

Florida State Laws


http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/l...t.asp?state=fl

Road
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Safety Helmet 316.211 Equipment for motorcycle and moped riders.-- - Not required over 21 with a minimum of $10,000 in medical insurance
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State Funded Rider Ed - Available for all eligible applicants-required under age 21 education
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Eye Protection - Required by law
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Daytime Use of Headlight - Required by law-modulating headlight permitted
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Passenger Seat - Required if carrying a passenger
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Passenger Footrest - Required if carrying a passenger
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Passenger Age Restriction - None Helmet Speakers No Restrictions
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Periodic Safety Inspection - None
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Mirror Left(L) Right(R) - One required by law
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Radar Detector - No Restriction
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Turn Signals - Not required.
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Muffler - No person shall modify the exhaust system in such a manner that the noise emitted is above that emitted by the vehicle as originally manufactured.
No person shall operate a vehicle with an exhaust system so modified. .
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Maximum Sound Level - Maximum allowable A-weighted sound levels based on measurements taken at a distance of 50 feet from center line of travel (Sec. 316.293):
1) Manufactured before 1/1/79--82dBA (35mph or less); 86dBA (over 35mph)
2)Manufactured after 1/1/79--78dBA(35mph or less); 82dBA(over 35mph).
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State Insurance Requirements - FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY LAW-IT DOES APPLY TO MOTORCYCLES!
Florida's No-Fault, or "PIP Law" does not apply to motorcycles.
HOWEVER, the Financial Responsibility FR Law applies to ALL motor vehicles in Florida, including motorcycles.
Thus the voluntary purchase of motor vehicle liability insurance by an owner, operator or owner/ operator is highly recommended.
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Failure to carry property damage and bodily injury liability insurance in case of a crash, DUI conviction or other occurrences outlined in Florida's FR Law, Ch. 324, may result in some or all of the following:
Loss of license/tag and registration, and/or restitution or civil court judgment, and future proof (three years) of high risk, SR22 mandatory liability insurance coverage just to keep your driver license - even if you do not own any motor vehicles.
Source: Florida Motorcycle Handbook 2006
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Handlebar Height - No higher than top of shoulders of the operator when seated upon the motorcycle.
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Rider-Education Waiver - Skill & Knowledge Test
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Accept Motorcycle Endorsement From Other States - Yes
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Accept RiderEd Completion Card From Other States - N/A
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Motorcycles operating two abreast in same lane - Yes. 316.209 - Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.-- (1) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane.
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Lane Splitting 316.209 Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic (2) - The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. (3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.
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Off Road
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Safety Helmet - Required if under age 16 and ATV's only
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Eye Protection - Required if under age 16 and ATV's only
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Minimum Operator Age - No Restriction
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Rider Education Certification - Not Required
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Operator License - Not Required
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Headlight - Not Required
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Taillight - Not Required
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Muffler - Not Required
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Maximum Sound Level - No Limit
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Spark Arrestor - Not Required
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Registration - Required by law
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Vehicle Title - Required
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Trails Program - Available

[Cecil]

Originally Posted by saccay

ok im looking into gettin a bike but i definately want to take the course first... any suggestions on places to take it and numbers to call.
any suggestions are appreciated
thanks

Here are some links to threads that may assist you in finding a MSF course:

Link 1

Link 2

This has come up before, thus a search on "MSF Course" may be enough to get you going.

Good Luck.

Ride Safe.

ATGATT

[OuttaFokus]

Wow, really good info guys. I'm very picky when it comes to things, and while starting out on a smaller bike might be smarter...I felt quite confortable on my budies '06 GSXR 600 (he's insane for letting a first timer ride it!). Obviously, im not gonna slap down 9K on my first bike, but i've been looking @ 2001-newer bikes. I think i have it narrowed down to either a YZF-R6 or GSXR 600.

My main concern is that im quite short (5'5") and i have a feeling i may drop the bike at low speeds...

[Cecil]

Originally Posted by 99maxima5sp

Wow, really good info guys. I'm very picky when it comes to things, and while starting out on a smaller bike might be smarter...I felt quite confortable on my budies '06 GSXR 600 (he's insane for letting a first timer ride it!). Obviously, im not gonna slap down 9K on my first bike, but i've been looking @ 2001-newer bikes. I think i have it narrowed down to either a YZF-R6 or GSXR 600.

My main concern is that im quite short (5'5") and i have a feeling i may drop the bike at low speeds...

At 5'5", I do not see you "needing" to lower the bike.
Look at these guys, no one has ever acussed any of them of being "big".



Moto GP Class Riders
Repsol Honda Team
#3
Max Biaggi

Date of birth : June 26, 1971
Nationality : Italy
Height : 170cm
Weight : 64kg

#69
Nicky Hayden

Date of birth : July 30, 1981
Nationality : U.S.A.
Height : 173cm
Weight : 68kg

Team Movistar Honda MotoGP

#15
Sete Gibernau

Date of birth : December 15, 1972
Nationality : Spain
Height : 177cm
Weight : 70kg

#33
Marco Melandri

Date of birth : August 7, 1982
Nationality : Italy
Height : 168cm
Weight : 58kg

Camel Honda

#4
Alex Barros

Date of birth : October 18, 1970
Nationality : Brazil
Height : 174cm
Weight : 68kg

#12
Troy Bayliss

Date of birth : March 30, 1969
Nationality : Australia
Height : 174cm
Weight : 68kg

Konica Minolta Honda Team

#6
Makoto Tamada

Date of birth : November 4, 1976
Nationality : Japan
Height : 171cm
Weight : 61kg 250cc Class Riders
Team Telefonica Movistar Honda 250

#1
Daniel Pedrosa

Date of birth : September 29, 1985
Nationality : Spain
Height : 158cm
Weight : 43kg

#73
Hiroshi Aoyama

Date of birth : October 25, 1981
Nationality : Japan
Height : 165cm
Weight : 54kg Team Scot

#34
Andrea Dovizioso

Date of birth : March 23, 1986
Nationality : Italy
Height : 162cm
Weight : 56kg

#55
Yuki Takahashi

Date of birth : July 12, 1984
Nationality : Japan
Height : 163cm
Weight : 53kg

Team Fortuna Honda

#48
Jorge Lorenzo

Date of birth : May 4, 1987
Nationality : Spain
Height : 169cm
Weight : 54kg

#55
Hector Barbera

Date of birth : November 2, 1986
Nationality : Spain
Height : 168cm
Weight : 55kg

[???]

good link that was posted about buying your first used bike..


http://www.clarity.net/~adam/buying-bike.html