i don't like the style but i do like the consept black with red lip. they are roh's or something. they are like $750 with tires shipped right? the spokes are just to big to me. jmo but what ever makes you boat float. if you like them get the. its your money. i just thing $750 could be spent on a brand new big t28 or evo 3 big 16g with install kit. thanks mike