I appreciate your time and info I have all the basic manuals for the ultimate just looking for the more detailed stuff such as the igt-igf circuit install maybe speed density cause I understand the greddy Vulcan run sequential or batch. Just weighing my options at the moment on money spent on this setup vs. Taking a loss but would love to figure out and getting it to work and pick up a MS3 pnp and build it while on the greddy