Okay I get that but is this the dude did not have to flame me. my thread that wants to buy not a posting this thread if anybody wants to flame me. Seriously there's a difference between constructive criticism and insulting someone. I would assume that if someone is new to nissan drifting racing etc then people would help not make fun of . jumping on my case just because I said something A different way really? Now please correct me if I'm wrong.