we ran from a 1st gear 20 roll i got him by maybe 2-3 cars then 2nd time 2nd gear 40 roll i got him but when i banged 4th my bushing came out of the cable and the last run i ran jap driving it a 40-50mph 2nd gear it was up there lol and i got them maybe by like car and half that time ...but they need tires bad theywere on 14" steelies i beleave i have a video but dont wana start comotion lol chino's shit sounds healty with good tires should move nice...