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Old May 29, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fitbikeco
If i was really making 8 or 9 hundred hp i can understand it breaking but running 27psi on 80 shot with pump and e100 is very unlikely. As for my setup im using 850cc primary injectors and 1 1650cc injector in the charge pipe that sprays E100. The shot is wet with standalone fuel system that uses e100 also its tuned independently with the nitrous modifier map on the aem. As soon as i figure out how to put a log up i will haha. but besides that these rods are supposed to be able to take anything you throw at them.... But just maybe it couldn't handle nitrous on top of 27 psi so i pushed the power to far that doesnt mean i assembled it incorrectly or it was tuning problem.

This is not the only time i have ran this setup people that know me know i have ran the same setup on my talon for over 20k miles on eagle rods and the car still runs to this day.

As for metal you cant see is due to the poor clarity of the pictures. but say your theory is true then the new question is how does a 1k hp rod bend with ZERO signs of cylinder wear no detonation no frozen or broken rings and no frozen or broke wrist pin.

you cant tell me you these rods are weaker then my stock size wrist pins!!!
I believe you that there was no sign of detonation as I am very sure that detonation was not any sort of cause for your failure. As stated before, Ethanol is a very funny fuel as it takes a hell of a lot to make it detonate then any other "race fuel". This is why your tuner was able to add timing very easily to your setup when you switched over from Methanol.

Now as I was trying to explain in previous conversations, because of the very high knock resistance of Ethanol, you can push timing far past MBT without even seeing a hint of detonation. You are also not making any more power when doing this as well, all you are doing is creating dangerous amounts of cylinder pressure that will bend and or snap a rod exactly as you have pictured at the top of this thread. With this type of failure, you will most likely not see any sort of abnormal cylinder or bearing wear. Sorry to say, all you did was prove my point in our previous arguments in a very expensive way. Hopefully next time you will be more open to listening to people who have already pushed far past what you have instead of being thick headed and telling others "you just don't understand".....
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