We need a "yawn" smiley. It gets old because so many domestic guys won't just let it go. I don't think anyone was being overly critical of the Cobra until you came into this thread and said, "Not to suprised since the STi looks to be at it's factory limits where as the Cobra can pick up 100+ at the wheels with a simple $80 blower pulley." You were wrong on two counts. One, the STi is nowhere near its limits and two, an $80 pulley will not get the Cobra 100+hp at the wheels. Even if it did, you would have to spend more money making the proper supporting mods to the car (i.e. fuel delivery and management). From that point forward, the thread went downhill into the same old "mullets own j00 all" stuff we hear all the time. It isn't getting old, it got old five years ago. Now it's just a mutilated pile of flesh where a dead horse used to be. The Cobra is a reasonably compitent car, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. No one made any real derogatory comments before your post, because no one cared enough to bother.