nah keith had him by atleast 2 cars, i mean it wasnt close anuff for any one to even think that little won, he did run me, and we were about even at the end, put i can honstly say if we had another 500 feet of track i would have been past him my self, thats why i sead i wanted to re run him. keep in mind cutty has the flat black fox body, and i have the black 99 GT also keep in mind cutty never sprayed the 180 shot eather.