yes i kno they are like one of the best out there and the w7 is one of the most advanced subs out there bla bla i get flamed for it all the time. Im jus not a big fan of JL. its like a civic, everyone has one, and they reason they do is cuz they are good and realiable. But in JL's case they are overpriced and they kno they can do it and people will pay it. Like what rockford did with their products. Back in the day they made kick ass products and now they make shitty stuff and charge the same or more as they used to but since they got that rep. they kno people will pay. JL is over played and for the price u can get shit much cheaper IMO. i kno im gonna get flamed at least once but some hardcore JL lover like always but o well YOU CAN BLOW ME. Just like damn audiobahn lovers. Audiobahn plain sucks except for the amps which are still over priced. I have no idea how audiobahn got the name they did? Havent they always sucked?