older ones get a thumbs up all day long. but even you as a mustang owner know the speed differnece. now why is it so hard to believe that me civic can and has beaten gt's and cobras. is it just cause my vehicle is a honda? any can be made fast. even if its a kia. wellll no i take that back. kia's cant be fast but everything else can be. time and money and experience behind the wheel is all you need. and its safe for me to say that i have enough of all 3.