i mentioned that i only had a total of about 5-6 hours in the above statements. I know also that the cars mentioned above are not meant for any major type events. The Cars i mentioned where meant for auto-x. I basically figured you would say that. i did some reading and figured that it would take at least 6-7k to get a all the supplies together. This is something i consider a life passion so i have time to get those light years of seat time. I guess my 1st and best interest is to just run auto-x for a few years and then see where i am at. Thanks for the info guys