Also to clairfy, I've in no way said the LSX motors are crap, I just dont think they're superior to other motors either. The only V8 I'm interested in is the Ford 5.0. It has the widest range of power of any american V8 and out of the box it rev's higher. For my taste in how I want the car set up thats what I want. I dont want tall gearing and lots of low end grunt. I want a motor that makes broad power but also goes up past 7k and can sit there while still making lots of power. And as far as displacement is concerned it kicks the LS3's ass. 15 less hp and 30less torque from a 1.3L disatvantage? Thats pretty awesome. The Boss 5.0 makes more of both hp and tq than the LS3, rev's higher and has a wider power band and doesnt really weigh any more. The only down side is its taller.