dont get me wrong, the RX8 wont be bashed by me, but a civic going fast doesnt do it for me at all #1 and #2 what the hell does it matter? a civic cost nearly half of an rx8! i like the interior a a good deal on the rx8, and the exterior... but the power doesnt do it for me, mods or not..... ill stick with the STi > RX8 on this one