Ok why don't you post what car you have then? Stock is stock, as it came from the factory so you know. I assumed you had a V6 Firebird because I remember that you did or someone on here did for some reason and you have a firebird in your sig. If I'm wrong correct me, no problem. If not, then point blank you would never get a 14 anything out of it stock.

The fact that everyone says how slow the RX8 is is kind of annoying by now. If it performed like it was supposed to from the factory it wouldn't be much faster. Yet people wouldn't call it "slow" then because there wouldn't be all this drama surrounding it.