Your 2 cents have been taken to in acount and I agree to a certain extent... Your right there is a time and a place for everything.. There are some Dumbasses that do idiotic things in the middle of traffic or in the middle of races.... These people should be shot, granted theres some places way out in the sticks that are fun to fuck off at... Now I can only account for myself, I personally like to go out around 2 in teh morn. where theres no traffic... plus some times theres that nice dew on the road which is an added bonus... But you know thats jus me.... Take it for what its worth..... DWLSRx8 "I lost mine for a reason whats your excuse?"