Im sur somebody would pay 30 extra bucks to be able to come pick up the rims and not have to wait for shipping... I also said I am open to any offers..... and those websites arent including shipping in their prices! trust me dude Im not ripping anybody off.... and I wouldnt sell them to make a lame 30 dollar profit... I get them retail price, I actually like the rims a lot and im going to put a set on my car soon!