very true all of these OP, I am glad had such a good one day turnout. As far as s2k 2jz build, thats a one off race car and can't be bracketed with the DD and weekend warrriors, and average man couldn't afford it anyway, and yes quality of work has a HUGE factor in things but I could swap a 0 miles fresh sr20det into a Immaculate 92 240sx with all supporting mods and no knock off parts....and retain all my OEM features...but it still doesn't make it worth8 or 9k IMO and thats all between the buyer and seller. Purpose of this thread was hopefully to open some eyes of buyers so this outrageous prices and inflation could someday come down.... but one forum thread on TR will have 0 effect on it.