Also the "fad" of selling riced out econoboxes for 4-5 grand is'nt just a TR thing... look around cragslist. And hell it's not just the Honda and Nissan kids, its dumb "urban" people with car that they jack up and throw huge ass rims on. Or more recently some of you might remember the X-Men truck? Loaded with all the cheapest audio equipment that Ebay could provide.