i agree and its not just honda or nissan, supras are in the same bunch and evo's and sti's bolt on's dont equal 18k for a 13k evo..period,no matter how many videos it has on youtube, supra's are also like this but their rareity these days has inflated prices also. but age group has less to do with it then amount of money someone makes, upper classes aren't modifing civics, there modifiy bmws, supras, nsx's.etc. 30 year olds are just as guilty as 17 year olds asking 6k for a 2000 dollar civic, i think it is more dependity on there financial spot on the totem pole. if i made 100k a year i would have a sick supra. not a 240.