lol... riiight, thats why as I stated several times our group met up WITH NO PROBLEMS for over a year at several locations until other showed up and screwed it up for us. so you can stick you "we took over you meeting spot and screwed it up" comment and shove it. we went to find new spots and were followed everywher we went. so where is the real problem coming in? with us? or those who follow us? and just fyi, NONE of our trucks have loud exhausts, most are stock because none of us want to hear a loud 4 cylinder. w know they are slow and make no attempt to prove otherwise. most of us do not even listen to rap, or have big stereos. those that do dont sit there with it blaring like a tool. and we do donuts in the parking lot? seriously? most of us have under powered, open differential trucks. tell me how or why we would do donuts? and rev up contests? really? as stated before, we all know what our motors sound like and most of us don't like what we hear. so why in the hell would we get into a "revving contest" with each other? to further embarass ourselves? I think you need to redirect your anger towards the people that actually do this stuff and not us truck guys. we aren't really into making our trucks fast, or loud, and we have too much work and pride into them to tear them up doing dumb stuff in a parking lot. as for the dragging, yeah, occasionally we go out on the road and lay it out. but guess what, that's on the road. not in the parking lot. and the only thing it does is make some sparks and remove some material from whatever we are dragging (blocks, frame, rockers etc). so that being said, what are we really hurting? if anything it's our own trucks, so why do you care? you just keep tuning your hondas. let me know how that goes for you there, budday