Old 06-21-2010, 04:48 PM
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A bit harsh? Yes, but this was the kind of interesting commentary and back-seat sour graping I was expecting.

Dangerous? perhaps by some people's overly conservative standards, but the safety crew was there. Your idea of extreme danger differs greatly from mine since doing some pushing on a wide big sweeper with run off areas at about 35-45 MPH doesn't put me in fear of injury or death. And for your information I did bring my helmet and was told that it wouldn't be needed. Also, when I'm referring to crappy tires when on a track, I mean non-race tires, not that my tires are complete crap.

I've made clear that what I was doing was nothing about 'how it will handle at speed when properly driven'. If I was 'properly' driving I wouldn't even be out there on a rainy day trying to find out how the car would react from too much oversteer, but ignorance of how it would react wasn't going to do me any favors either.

If this was just about 'properly' driving my car this little adventure would have never been even been arranged.

As long as the harsh critisms are flowing, if it doesn't hurt your head so badly, besides heading off to some large parking lot in the middle of the night how would you have suggested I find out how bad the oversteer is what happens when I push it too hard?

Then again I do realize that some people don't believe in playing around or pushing beyond the limits when the opportunity presents itself. Kinda sad and painful for me to think that if you had a chance to get by yourself on one of nicest tracks here in the area, still slightly wet from a rainstorm, you would rather putz around at 80% of what's even possible since you wouldn't want to be 'embarassed', lol.

Its not like this is my first time at moroso. All my previous times there were spent in a way I'm sure you'd find 'responsible' since that was a car (Porsche 930) that was unforgiving if not kept within the limits. Then again the reason I was able to keep it in its limits was since I had opportunities to completely push it to the limit and beyond, including the spinning out that results in tail heavy cars like the old porsches, but I did so in slower and safer venues like auto-x.

Personally I'm from the school of belief that if you have never pushed your car past the point of control repeatedly you shouldn't even be racing it. Slow lane driving at the speed limit on deserted public roads might be more your stlye.

I guess who should be really embarassed is the guy in the following vid. Driving fast on a track with one hand, in the rain, with a glass of water in one hand one moment and doing 360s the next minute, because that's just not proper driving, lol.

YouTube - S60R Video

I guess by your all's standards Tiff Needell is a complete moron compared to me.
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