Well I have been drifting for almost 5 years and feel like the next thing to do is cage my car, get the feel for it and maby enter some comps for fun. I really dont care about winning anything, I just want to drift as much as I can and have fun... LOTS OF FUN!!! I could just go to tracks and slide around but I want to advance in learning. It seems like the most cost affective way is to just buy a s13 shell that already has a cage and drop ma ess arr init. Formula d sounds fun but I have to face the facts: I have 2 daughters, child support, my own bills and I'm broke 90% of the time! If I cant find a good price on a caged shell I'll save up, buy a cage and then maby I'll have a little money to throw 23tstang to teach me how to weld in my cage.