im not trying to be cheap !! that why im asking for a roller and someone do it or take it somewhere ... i dont have a $1000 240 or what not to roll them ..trust me if i did have a car like that i would try to roll them myself and wouldnt care if i fucked up but NOT ON MY CAR !!!!! yea im going to S&R this weeek i talked to them and they said 50 a side so thats where i ll be going thanks fly !!